It is serious if the "riggin" is what made her have to do the above to win.

She lost to 5% equity Trump. Trump.

Trump.

Passing health care legislation is child's play compared to implementing change to the civil service. Implementing market based pay and more strongly linking pay and performance will the Kushner findings which will go nowhere/ No need to recreate the wheel Jared just copy and paste from the Booz Allen or Rand or Harvard study on the same topic.

2010, the first year that "Tea Party" candidates came into power in a big wave, was also the year that Voter Suppression laws started popping up around the country. This will be a huge priority of theirs now that they have a Tea Party President.

https://www.brennancenter.org/analys...g-laws-numbers

The thing is Obama actually had geeks, and regulations and initiatives were pushed that made a lot of the federal govts on-line presence MUCH better. However, this is difficult, detail work that requires lots of effort, coordination, meetings, and push from higher levels, even the president when necessary. Check out the Dept. of State, FDA, EPA, FBI, or Patent and Trademark Office websites. They're not bad and are often good and useful. As such, Mission Accomplished by Obama.

Now, how is high level "spit-balling" by a bunch of know nothing rich kids who think "business" is making deals, not working and making things (whether actual manufactured things or audit reports or flight schedules or legislation) going to make government better? There is no "transforming government" fairy. The easy work has been done. Like healthcare, there is very little low-hanging fruit, and not understanding that, to say nothing of how government works, just means wasted time and effort and grifting and creating misery for people who actually have to DO things.

Reminds me of the recent Wells Fargo account scam. Wells Fargo had all these BS "metrics" about how many accounts/products customers should have, and the high-level execs got big bonuses when the metrics were met or exceeded. So they squeezed and squeezed the $12/hr employees to bust their ass, giving like $50 gift card ultra high performers. And, whaddya know, turns out that encouraged a whole lotta fraud that mainly accrued to the senior execs, who were just "shocked and appalled" by the unforeseeable outcome.

One does not simply use one's ignorance and drive as a weapon to "transform" things, in business or government.

And on a very basic level, one very simple and not entirely inaccurate to think of the word "rigged election" is "an election set up that the person who got the least votes wins." Well, that's obviously what happened in the Pres. election. No wonder people are frustrated. They turned out to vote, 3 million more people voted for Clinton, and we got the Orange Monster instead. And noone in the media seems willing to drill down on this and really examine the fact that the Electoral College is a horribly flawed institution that needs to go. It's bad for democracy, it's that simple.

100% agree. Welcome back Seattle.

To the extent whatever Kushner and his "very serious" cronies do is not terrible, it will be reinventing or repackaging things that have been around since Clinton's first term. And just like Trump's healthcare failure was a super-inept funhouse mirror of Clinton's healthcare failure, same goes for "reinventing America." Think plagiarized reports with, somehow, more spelling errors.

And keep in mind, Trump still hasn't nominated anyone to high-level positions basically anywhere outside the cabinet. At least for now, he's going to have to "reinvent" govt with the aid of high-level career civil servants, who know their agencies 1000% better than anyone associated with Trump ever will. And if there's going to be any work done, Congress will need to appropriate money.

But "democracy" has very much become a partisan issue. It is not something Republicans are in favor of, we can clearly see that.

i'd rather see the president hire silicon-valley-level tech talent than failing real estate heirs who happen to be related to him.

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It's also why we're getting a lot of people who show up here talking about if we can have some different sources than "left wing biased sources" even though they're completely mainstream. Some of them are coming from a worldview a hint of left wing bias isn't something to push against, say show undocumented immigrant crime as a push against praise for the work ethic of undocumented workers, but rather to show that all left leaning (and in reality mainstream) press shouldn't be counted on at all or at least put on par with nonsensical twitter personalities.

The Trump campaign may have colluded with an adversarial foreign state to commit illegal acts against the US and US citizens in order to influence the election in Trump's favor in exchange for diplomatic favors (and who knows what else might be/have been involved). But let's be sure to vigilantly police the definition of rigging.

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/846302063986401281

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Yes, people are. It's the only reason I posted.

the post you quoted, which i responded to in all caps, had nothing to do with election riggage, it was about russian/GOP collusion

there is a difference and you didn't need to multi-quote all this other irrelevant garbage

Sounds like there needs to be a Democratic Party - China partnership in the future

the election was rigged. deal with it

It's looking more and more like Nunez got his source that Trump was wiretapped from the White House itself, said he had intelligence sources, then the White House quoted him to give themselves legitimacy. Source laundering as it were.

Yes I think a lot of people have a very hard time with this. It's like accepting that your parents aren't perfect or that there is no God and all that religion stuff you were taught as a kid is a total lie. We were also taught that The Constitution was basically handed down from God to Thomas Jefferson and contains every solution to every problem and could essentially be an appendix in The Bible. But Comey isn't playing straight, the intelligence committees aren't playing straight, the Attorney General is lying to us, and elections are being stolen--before Russian collusion it was through gerrymandering and voter suppression. We have to fight back but in order to fight these things we have to recognize that there is a problem in the first place. Apathy is not the answer. More people voting and being involved in our democracy is the answer.

The Electoral College, the redistricting process itself, the voting process (voter suppression), they're all broken. Either broken by Republicans weaponizing flaws in the system or just broken by the fact that they don't match up with today's modern world. But broken and if we don't fix these problems, we'll be attacked like this again. Russia attacks where we are weak--if the Electoral College didn't exist, for example, they never would have been able to push Trump over the top.

One interesting little footnote. Trump was calling the November elections "rigged" all through 2016. He often has a tendency to project his own nefarious intentions or designs onto his opponents.

The Russia-Trump thing is like, what if 9/11 happened, but there was no direct video footage of it? What if you had to hear about it through word of mouth, and the result was not a bunch of people dying but an ongoing problem--an illegitimate President and administration controlling the most powerful office on the planet. Would you believe it or would you want to believe that it's all just some very poorly written Tom Clancy stuff.

And now what if that event, which there was no footage of, was completely partisanized. Now you've really got a recipe where a big % of the population will understand that the event happened, and another big % of the population will refuse to ever admit that such a thing happened. Exactly the kind of dream scenario Putin would love to see unfold over here.

*shrug* I think it's stupid to complain about rigging because when someone asks how the election was rigged and your answer isn't, they tampered with the voting system or results or something along those lines, you actually do look like conspiratorial sore losers. And it detracts from other more powerful (imo) narratives like corruption and ignoring citizens' needs for personal enrichment.

How quickly we forget that the 2000 election was literally stolen from the Dems

this is not a new thing

Working with a hostile foreign power to steal an election is corruption. That's like, about as pure an example of corruption as you can get. Stealing money is one thing, but this is corruption amped up to the highest power. The kind of corruption that if it goes unchecked gets you somebody like Putin in power who can completely subvert "democracy" and get rid of all our precious checks and balances.

those silly so-called judges

Well we could get in the really thick weeds on this one. But basically it wasn't nearly as blatant a theft, and it's much more difficult to prove. The popular vote count was much closer in that election, and the election was stolen basically through legal mechanisms. I do definitely recommend the movie Recount though, you can see a lot of the seeds of where we are today in the machinations that went on in the wake of that election night 2000.