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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

03-26-2017 , 12:55 PM
your basic premise is faulty
03-26-2017 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
There are way to many MSNBC Links here, it is just left Fox News with the same credibility. Can we go back to actual news outlets?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Nance
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Malcolm Wrightson Nance (born September 20, 1961) is a retired United States Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer in naval cryptology and author, scholar and media commentator on international terrorism, intelligence, insurgency and torture.

Nance is an expert in the history, personalities and organization of al-Qaeda and the Islamic State of Iraq and Levant (ISIL); jihadi radicalization, Islamic extremism in Middle East, Southwest Asian and African terror groups, as well as counterinsurgency and asymmetric warfare. He speaks Arabic and is active in the field of national security policy particularly in anti- and counter-terrorism intelligence, terrorist strategy and tactics, torture and counter-ideology in combating Islamic extremism. In 2014 he became the executive director of the Terror Asymmetrics Project on Strategy, Tactics and Radical Ideologies (TAPSTRI), a Hudson, New York-based think tank.
03-26-2017 , 01:17 PM
Trump blasting the HFC sort of refutes all the 4D trap of Ryan brietbart crap
03-26-2017 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
There are way to many MSNBC Links here, it is just left Fox News with the same credibility. Can we go back to actual news outlets?
Lol, why don't you just refute it like we do to Fox News
03-26-2017 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
your basic premise is faulty
You make a good point by just saying iam wrong without actually presenting an argument.
03-26-2017 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
The Senate Sergeant-at-Arms can only "arrest" or "detain" someone to bring them to the Senate.
And the president is not subject to any other power of arrest, unless and until impeached and removed from office, which has never happened. Even when one president resigned to avoid impeachment, he was immediately pardoned by his successor, because presidents are in important respects above the law. Which means that the United States is not really under the rule of law at all. It's an oligarchy, which is what it was created to be by a conspiracy of rich merchants and slavers seeking only their own advantage.

The president is an elected king, plus roi que le roi, with vastly greater powers than any constitutional monarch such as HM King George III or any of his late Majesty's successors. The president appoints the entire executive by patronage and royal favour. He can rule by arbitrary fiat through 'executive orders' and he can even fire federal prosecutors -- like that was never going to be a problem, because ambitious politicians are never corrupt, are they?
03-26-2017 , 01:34 PM
I recall reading an article that said Trump made like 260 promises during the campaign. lol

He didn't want to leave anyone out.
03-26-2017 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
Lol, why don't you just refute it like we do to Fox News
It would be a waste of my time. And we are not going to have this discussion since the irony is to much. Here is the average poster ITT:

"Fox news is a sensationalized biased pile of crap that just spins the reality in the way it wants to! Check out MSNBC they got Trump´s tax returns, this is going to be huge!"
03-26-2017 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
In regards to the ACA... So I work in health care. Primarily my concern with health care is self interested. Specifically nothing that rocks the boat to jeopardize my salary and/or career. In general, anything that approaches a Public Option or Single Payer I'm against because of the resulting blows to health care worker salaries.
So you're motivated solely by private self-interest and, since your salary depends on a hopelessly corrupt, oligarchic and defective system out of kilter with the whole of the rest of the Western world, that's a rather serious problem. And you aren't a health care worker. You don't treat patients. You're a bureaucrat.

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I cheer for the United States.
No. You don't. You just admitted that you vote purely to protect your own pay packet, which derives from a system profoundly harmful to the welfare of the nation. And you voted for a candidate who has made your country the laughing stock of the entire world in perpetuity, because some stains just won't wash out.
03-26-2017 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert

https://twitter.com/TAPSTRIMEDIA/sta...31987081142273
I know there are arguments that going after the collusion story may be a mistake if the democrats can't prove anything, the timing for the Russia story is important here. Investigation (and impeachment) will probably take months, which coincides with a very busy year for putin's troll bots. Today was probably Russia's biggest protest action yet, in 100 different cities, and police had to arrest hundreds of people everywhere. With any luck those will continue and disrupt putin's reelection campaign in 2018. Without his support of the fringe right wing, the right-wing kind of collapses on issues alone. The intel committees need to methodically work through it in open AND closed hearings. There needs to be enough news coverage for the public to process it all, and there will be plenty of distractions. But there will also be opportunities when putin looks like a monster and releasing details of another shady deal done by the trump org will erode his support further.

It's an important issue to keep pressing. By the way, do hearings continue during recess?

Last edited by sylar; 03-26-2017 at 01:43 PM.
03-26-2017 , 01:43 PM
This is hilarious if this is true. The dude is a just a clown of unmitigated disaster. He literally thinks he can present a bill to another country and someone will whip out a checkbook and pay it. No wonder he thinks Mexico is paying for the wall. He plans on sending a bill.

The US President is said to have had an “invoice” printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany’s unpaid contributions for defence.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7650636.html
03-26-2017 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
It would be a waste of my time. And we are not going to have this discussion since the irony is to much. Here is the average poster ITT:

"Fox news is a sensationalized biased pile of crap that just spins the reality in the way it wants to! Check out MSNBC they got Trump´s tax returns, this is going to be huge!"
meh, it was kind of a big deal, just over most peoples heads.
03-26-2017 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
This is hilarious if this is true. The dude is a just a clown of unmitigated disaster. He literally thinks he can present a bill to another country and someone will whip out a checkbook and pay it. No wonder he thinks Mexico is paying for the wall. He plans on sending a bill.

The US President is said to have had an “invoice” printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany’s unpaid contributions for defence.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7650636.html
well everyone wanted him to run the country like a business...
03-26-2017 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
"Cuck," "snowflake," "beta" need to be excised from the lexicon. Even ironically. Once the tens digit of your age exceeds 2, it should be punishable by jail to use those words as insults.
I'm considering purchasing a book with "snowflakes" in the title. I think those words are here to stay. If you want them to be forgotten, invent a better term.
03-26-2017 , 01:54 PM
"Pussy" already exists. "Baby" also.
03-26-2017 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
I'm considering purchasing a book with "snowflakes" in the title.
In the insulting sense? Weather "snowflakes" are fine ldo.
03-26-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Nance is a boss.
I like Nance, though he can go a bit overboard, not sure if it's in the clip, but on the show he referred to Gulan as a US citizen when he's a green card holder. That said he knows about the CIA/NSA at a more granular level than reporters or most of the fake patriots that Fox hires.
03-26-2017 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
This is hilarious if this is true. The dude is a just a clown of unmitigated disaster. He literally thinks he can present a bill to another country and someone will whip out a checkbook and pay it. No wonder he thinks Mexico is paying for the wall. He plans on sending a bill.

The US President is said to have had an “invoice” printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany’s unpaid contributions for defence.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7650636.html
Quite ingenious.
Once you present an invoice, you open the avenue of suing them for non-payment.
03-26-2017 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Yesterday we were discussing how not passing the AHCA would impact tax reform and being able to offer cuts. Someone asked, when I said it was revenue neutral, why wouldn't defense spending etc wouldn't wipe that out. I didn't really fully understand the specifics of how budget reconciliation worked as it related to tax cuts but found this article in tif Washington Post that explains it.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.20d1cccea739

So basically by cutting taxes used to fund the ACA, they cut the tax revenue number they needed to meet when doing tax reform.
I'm groggier than usual this morning but I don't get this. Let's say tax revenue is x and the decrease in tax revenue due to a tax cut is y. I don't see why it matters what x is, it seems like it's y that has to be reconciled no matter the size of x.
03-26-2017 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagine
Quite ingenious.
Once you present an invoice, you open the avenue of suing them for non-payment.
I think this is a joke, so I don't need to nit it up, but as a legal matter presenting an invoice creates no legal obligations; it's the underlying contract, which can be oral, that matters. (And there's no NATO court of course.)
03-26-2017 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
The GOP has a majority, any shutdown would be their own fault. Also, Pres. could submit, in theory, a budget for them to pass (though Trump and his team would literally be incapable of this, just logistically). Pelosi may play ball, but not without Ironclad concessions, and Ryan likely not as flexible as Boehner.

Sure, Trump and Fox will blame the Dems, but Trump/Ryan will own the disaster.
Thanks. Somehow I didn't realise the GOP can do this themselves, and if they can't, the need to ask the Democrats for favours. Which is a pretty sweet spot for the Dems.
03-26-2017 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
I'm considering purchasing a book with "snowflakes" in the title. I think those words are here to stay. If you want them to be forgotten, invent a better term.

03-26-2017 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
In the insulting sense? Weather "snowflakes" are fine ldo.
Not insulting but in relation to people.
03-26-2017 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by suckerpunch
I'm groggier than usual this morning but I don't get this. Let's say tax revenue is x and the decrease in tax revenue due to a tax cut is y. I don't see why it matters what x is, it seems like it's y that has to be reconciled no matter the size of x.
I think it's saying that there's limits on how much tax you're allowed to cut related to projected government spending. So if you reduce projected government spending you can cut more taxes.
03-26-2017 , 02:24 PM
So Trump is going after heritage/Club for growth/HFC on twitter now?

That should really help his chances passing an infrastructure bill that they already loathe .

      
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