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03-25-2017 , 11:58 PM

#21751

Vagine

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 352

No holding back.

"the laziest, most ignorant, most incompetent, and now the most irrelevant president."

03-26-2017 , 12:00 AM

#21752

raheem

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,235

Ryan is the bad guy. Ryan needs to step down or Trump needs to fire him.

03-26-2017 , 12:02 AM

#21753

Kirbynator

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hes gonna take bernie sanders somewhat socialist plan and the gop is gonna go crazy

03-26-2017 , 12:09 AM

#21754

OmgGlutten!

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

Quote:

Originally Posted by synth_floyd

So if Trump ****ed up on healthcare because he followed Ryan's plan and Ryan's plan was garbage, does that mean Trump will propose single payer to fix health care and cover everyone?

According to CNN, they couldn't get enough moderate Republicans to go along with it after the changes to appease the Freedom Caucus. So in the end, it was not "Ryan's bill" anymore.

03-26-2017 , 12:12 AM

#21755

Kirbynator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raheem

Ryan is the bad guy. Ryan needs to step down or Trump needs to fire him.

stop believing people trying to throw the blame around.

Trump's a terrible person, and a worse president. Ryan isnt much better.

there's no good guy here, sorry, it's all scum.

03-26-2017 , 12:12 AM

#21756

OmgGlutten!

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

hes gonna take bernie sanders somewhat socialist plan and the gop is gonna go crazy

I think he is just going to let the Kochs lead the way and that we are headed for chaos.

For example, what does the Freedom Caucus need in consolation to pass a budget?

And when Trump can't get them to go along with what the moderate Republicans will want he will think that the Democrats will have to do what he says... which will lead to chaos.

03-26-2017 , 12:14 AM

#21757

OmgGlutten!

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/deb...cle-2017-03-24

Press is starting to wake up to it.

I am thinking to start getting short the market. We are headed for chaos.

Please show me a path that is not chaos... Trump working with democrats in a calm, fair manner? Are you kidding me?

03-26-2017 , 12:14 AM

#21758

einbert

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/25/politi...are/index.html

Quote:

Republican sources close to the White House, aides inside the Trump administration, and GOP congressional staff involved in the health care process appear to agree on one thing: President Donald Trump has received a stinging lesson on dealmaking in Washington.
"He didn't care or particularly know about health care," a key GOP congressional aide said about Trump following the stunning defeat of the Republican health care plan Friday.
"If you are going to be a great negotiator, you have to know about the subject matter," the aide said, adding that overhauling health care is far different from building a golf course.

03-26-2017 , 12:15 AM

#21759

raheem

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,235

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

I believe Trump is an arbitrator. He will find a way to work with the Democrats. He will make the deal. I trust in him.

03-26-2017 , 12:15 AM

#21760

einbert

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Reminder that Obama met with basically every Senator and Representative on both sides of the aisle, met with groups within the industry, actually took input from Republicans, and spent over a year giving speeches, taking questions, and doing real actual interviews on ACA. Trump is a chump.

03-26-2017 , 12:20 AM

#21761

OmgGlutten!

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

This guy is never going to go across the isle and find a way to work with democrats.

03-26-2017 , 12:24 AM

#21762

Kirbynator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raheem

I believe Trump is an arbitrator. He will find a way to work with the Democrats. He will make the deal. I trust in him.

lol, c'mon man. Thought you woke up.

03-26-2017 , 12:26 AM

#21763

Melkerson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raheem

I believe Trump is an arbitrator. He will find a way to work with the Democrats. He will make the deal. I trust in him.

Looks like someone has just become unwoke.

Last edited by Melkerson; 03-26-2017 at 12:27 AM. Reason: clearly my pony needs to be woke

03-26-2017 , 12:28 AM

#21764

aoFrantic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raheem

I believe Trump is an arbitrator. He will find a way to work with the Democrats. He will make the deal. I trust in him.

"I believe that the little pigs will work with the wolf, I trust the wolf."

03-26-2017 , 12:30 AM

#21765

BroadwaySushy

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 3,237

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melkerson

Looks like someone has just become unwoke.

Lol

03-26-2017 , 12:33 AM

#21766

Vagine

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 352

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

lol, c'mon man. Thought you woke up.

Called him out on his BS and now he is coming out.

03-26-2017 , 12:33 AM

#21767

einbert

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Trump doesn't want to work with the Freedom Caucus now. They hurt his feelings.

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/845851958384758785

No Freedom Caucus + No Democrats => No Legislation.

Seems like a win for the American people imo.

03-26-2017 , 12:42 AM

#21768

fatkid

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He should try to work with the Penis Cockus.

03-26-2017 , 12:47 AM

#21769

OmgGlutten!

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The Lawrence video was brutal. Trump got rekt. Hopefully he does not nuke us all as payback.

03-26-2017 , 12:52 AM

#21770

OmgGlutten!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

Trump doesn't want to work with the Freedom Caucus now. They hurt his feelings.

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/845851958384758785

No Freedom Caucus + No Democrats => No Legislation.

Seems like a win for the American people imo.

debt ceiling and budgets.

03-26-2017 , 01:28 AM

#21771

Kirbynator

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Jesus that Lawrence clip was on live tv? LUL

03-26-2017 , 01:31 AM

#21772

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,097

Keep in mind Boehner needed Pelosi for a bunch of the votes for debt ceiling increases and continuing resolutions because the HFC went rogue. She supplied those votes because Obama was President, the calculus changes for the Dems now, they aren't motivated to do **** unless there's something in it for them, voting with Trump is political suicide.