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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

03-25-2017 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by thefinchster22
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03-25-2017 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Why do you guys respond to raheem? His posts are short and easy to scroll past.
I feel like we should call out his BS and let him know we all see though his charade. Hopefully that will stop him posting.
Also to let other newer viewers know he is a trump troll.
03-25-2017 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
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385 re-twäts

lol twáts is in the filter. Welcome to nazi Germany.
03-25-2017 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Majik1973
Looks like Donald's crystal ball was on point.

Plenty of Trump tweets are useful for schadenfreude tonight but that one is my favorite.
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Nunes' position is completely untenable, he needs to be stripped of his gavel, at minimum.

The Flynn revelation is just another huge scandal. There's only so much outrage to go around these days.
03-25-2017 , 01:14 AM
Prepare for potential Saturday Morning Tweet storm in 4-6 hours.
03-25-2017 , 01:48 AM
So what comes after Trump? In 2020 or sooner? What will the country be like then?
03-25-2017 , 01:54 AM
After Trump we probably get someone even crazier.
03-25-2017 , 01:59 AM
I was watching Alton Brown's Food Network show called "Good Eats." The episode was about peaches and was made in 2006ish or around there. Anyway, he made a pretty funny joke about Trump. You can look the episode up but I'm paraphrasing here. He said about a specific type of peach..."“Cling on peaches have flesh that cling to the pit like money and bad hair to Donald Trump." Just made me laugh.
03-25-2017 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
So what comes after Trump? In 2020 or sooner? What will the country be like then?
Here's the range

Best case, people resist the bull**** and republicans keep fighting amongst themselves and we escape with minimum amount of permanent damage.

Worst case is there is no election in 2020 and we got nuked.

Extrapolate this craziness for 4 years and we're gonna look back on this period as the good times.
03-25-2017 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
So what comes after Trump? In 2020 or sooner? What will the country be like then?
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
After Trump we probably get someone even crazier.
Possibly, but that would also most likely mean minor parties without a shot at winning the presidential election though.

I doubt you can reconcile republicans with the altright and hard trumpers. At least not while republicans are actually in power. They cant concentrate their hate on democrats for a full 4 years. They're grasping at straws already after 2 months pointing fingers at dems and losing the less dumb of their voters everytime

Like, voters will most likely be getting 4 years of this **** (Pence wouldnt be MUCH better), so 2020 should be a landslide.

I personally think it will take a while for the crazies to comeback together in concentrated strength, and renew their hatred.

The scary elections of a new extreme party or just an extreme leader to the republicans would probably come around 2028 imo.

But thats also 10 years of old people dying, and the world becoming more and more open and accepting (erhem I have to mention less religious) there is hope that it always gets better in time. That would mean the death/rebirth of the GOP.

It would mean america would go the way of most current western countries, with democrats going more to the left (european/canadian left), and a resurging party of former far-right becoming what is basically the middleground between the current USA left and right. (which is still conservative for western countries).

VERY likely that the younger trump trolls wouldnt go with them and create their own new party with some patriotic sounding name which is basically the racist and misogyn party of the united states of america.


ANd all of this **** can go down the toilet if there's a big war that fuels a party

Last edited by Kirbynator; 03-25-2017 at 02:18 AM.
03-25-2017 , 02:14 AM
This is coming from a techtard and I feel google lazy tonight (beers are a higher priority atm) so forgive me.

There was a story about politicians purging their phones/devices to avoid being subpoenaed.

I assume messages go through a server (or what ever the term would be) before being sent. Wouldn't telecommunication companies retain a copy of these?
03-25-2017 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Majik1973
This is coming from a techtard and I feel google lazy tonight (beers are a higher priority atm) so forgive me.

There was a story about politicians purging their phones/devices to avoid being subpoenaed.

I assume messages go through a server (or what ever the term would be) before being sent. Wouldn't telecommunication companies retain a copy of these?
The NSA might have them also.
03-25-2017 , 02:25 AM
I guess what gives me hope going forwards is that for all the incompetence, malevolence, martial law, nuclear war that I ascribed as possible/probable to the Trump presidency, I did not properly anticipate the staggering incompetence of the GOP congress and how that might lead to very little being done over the next 2-4 years. This failure is incredible, and it gives me hope.
03-25-2017 , 02:26 AM
8 years lol

and they are the same incompetent people we thought they were
03-25-2017 , 02:27 AM
I mean, we all knew that a full repeal would be cruel and ultimately unpopular. I underestimated the constituents making the calls to stop it, and I underestimated that the congresscritters would care, and then I further underestimated that the leadership could get their acts together to do anything about the former 2 things to pass the repeal, or repeal and replace, anyway.
03-25-2017 , 02:28 AM
They had 7 years of beating this drum and they couldn't come up with anything that could pass the house that they control. Paul Ryan is a spineless twerp.
03-25-2017 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mb1980
They had 7 years of beating this drum and they couldn't come up with anything that could pass the house that they control. Paul Ryan is a spineless twerp.
They didn't spend a single second over those 7 years creating an actual bill. Lol them. They just passed a repeal bill like fifty times for a total political stunt and wasting everyone's time. Now that it'd actually be a law, some are like **** we can't actually do that. No wonder people hate politics.

ACA took 13 months. They spent like 3 weeks and trump gave up and did everything he could according to spicer, which included honking a horn and pretending to drive a big rig while the discussions were going on.

Tax stuff probably won't get done for a bit either as ways and means committee said they're not gonna get to that for another 6 weeks.

Ofc trump might go off on them to do it now since he's way too impatient.
03-25-2017 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
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Currently 197 people waiting for a seat at his table.
03-25-2017 , 02:53 AM
If they have to pass tax reform in budget process, how much can they realistically cut if Trump won't touch entitlements?
03-25-2017 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I guess what gives me hope going forwards is that for all the incompetence, malevolence, martial law, nuclear war that I ascribed as possible/probable to the Trump presidency, I did not properly anticipate the staggering incompetence of the GOP congress and how that might lead to very little being done over the next 2-4 years. This failure is incredible, and it gives me hope.
I'm guilty of the same. I feared a savvy congress with an agenda would misuse trump to do horrible things,

I wish I could find the article I read earlier that summed up with the GOP Congress is so dysfunctional. Most of them have not worked in a dual house and presidential majority. They have spent almost all their home just obstructing stuff. This is literally the only thing the freedom caucus has done. They don't create legitimate policy and they certainly don't get important legislation passed. The totality of republican congress does not real understand how to do their job.

Again I also missed this reality. We all know all politicians lie and cater to special interests etc etc but them being exposed as this incompetent is just amazing.

I don't see how this gang who couldn't shoot straight will get any sort of key legislation passed as they obstruct themselves over and over.
03-25-2017 , 03:04 AM
I would also point out and this is very important IMO, but it's a different world. 2001-2008 was a time long ago.

Now you have twitter, social media, increased 24/7 news cycle, breitbart and co. sites that have fomented rage for 8 years.

Can you imagine the GOP trying to pass no child left behind right now? Regardless of what you think of that program, the public is just significantly more engaged on a day to day basis today. And you just spent 8 years telling them you can make all of their dreams come true if you just give them congress and prez.

edit: tax cuts may actually factor into this. Before if GWB said "This is a tax cut for everyone" people hear it benefits the rich on the nightly news or whatever and that's it, now something like that showing 50% of the cuts go to 1% of the population is going to be all over twitter, social media, word will just travel much faster.

Similar to what happened with AHCA.

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03-25-2017 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Majik1973
This is coming from a techtard and I feel google lazy tonight (beers are a higher priority atm) so forgive me.

There was a story about politicians purging their phones/devices to avoid being subpoenaed.

I assume messages go through a server (or what ever the term would be) before being sent. Wouldn't telecommunication companies retain a copy of these?
It depends on the platform you use to communicate. Readers of teen vogue are safe from their ISP and the NSA. http://www.teenvogue.com/story/how-t...essages-secure

cliffs: use signal and your chats are private.

In the dry funny amazon show Patriot, the hero secret agent uses words with friends chat. Hard to be more secure than that.
03-25-2017 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
If they have to pass tax reform in budget process, how much can they realistically cut if Trump won't touch entitlements?
He had no set of policies or principles for health care and just did what Paul Ryan wanted to. Who knows if it'll be the same for every other bill that they try to pass in the next 4 years.
03-25-2017 , 03:51 AM
Back in November, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin went one step further than his boss and promised, “Any reductions we have in upper-income taxes will be offset by less deductions so that there will be no absolute tax cut for the upper class.”



Maybe it'll be this?

LOL no
03-25-2017 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by thethethe
Congratulations, Democrats! You won a great victory and celebrated by posting on social media that Obamacare is broken and needs fixing. GJGE.

      
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