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03-24-2017 , 06:51 PM

#21351

raheem

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Does anyone watch The Five regularly? Have you noticed how all of a sudden they're talking like they have a lump in their throat? They're freaking out.

03-24-2017 , 06:55 PM

#21352

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thefinchster22

Lol, donks gonna donk. Man I'd love to play poker with Bill Mitchell.

Edit: I wonder if he also utilizes the "bluff-call." He is a true man of genius.

03-24-2017 , 06:55 PM

#21353

sylar

Ivan Drago's homeslice

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 20,307

Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

Democracy is a never-ending fight. As soon as you take it for granted, you get somebody like Trump who can tear the whole thing down in far less time than it takes to build up peace and prosperity and enterprise. Remaining vigilant means remaining active. We all have to find ways to positively contribute to our own communities and countries in this fight.

Yeah, turns out we have to defeat fascism every four, or even two, years.

03-24-2017 , 07:01 PM

#21354

Huehuecoyotl

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Woh man this quote

Quote:

Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) admitted as much as he left the meeting Friday. Reporters asked why, after Republicans held dozens of nearly-unanimous votes to repeal Obamacare under President Obama, they were getting cold feet now that they control the levers of power.

“Sometimes you’re playing Fantasy Football and sometimes you’re in the real game,” he said. “We knew the president, if we could get a repeal bill to his desk, would almost certainly veto it. This time we knew if it got to the president’s desk it would be signed.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/lead...amacare-repeal

03-24-2017 , 07:07 PM

#21355

ASAP17

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,882

Wait he said Obamacare's imploding so now it will explode? Trump's understanding of physics is breathtaking.

03-24-2017 , 07:11 PM

#21356

AllTheCheese

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

Lol, donks gonna donk. Man I'd love to play poker with Bill Mitchell.

Edit: I wonder if he also utilizes the "bluff-call." He is a true man of genius.

Sickest read. Bill Mitchell definitely bluff-calls and checks back the river with the nuts for deception.

03-24-2017 , 07:12 PM

#21357

raheem

temp-banned

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,235

We're living in George Orwell's 1984. Facts don't matter. And I haven't even read the book.

03-24-2017 , 07:14 PM

#21358

RV Life

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP17

Wait he said Obamacare's imploding so now it will explode? Trump's understanding of physics is breathtaking.

Obamacare is like a supernova. First it has to implode and collapse and then it can explode and kill us all.

03-24-2017 , 07:14 PM

#21359

ShallowMalePig

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 215

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

If anyone isn't reading Ezra Klein, they should be.

His work at Vox is top notch and he is a workhorse. 4 different columns about ACHA alone today.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...alth-bill-ahca

His latest

Meh, Vox played a big role in advancing the myth of Paul Ryan as a 'serious wonk'.

https://twitter.com/blippoblappo/sta...10671709863936

03-24-2017 , 07:17 PM

#21360

kre8tive

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,114

Quote:

Originally Posted by watevs

Lol Ryan is such a clown

"I guess we're doing Democrats a favor"

More like 26 million Americans you dolt

Why would any rational human being trust any Republican plan over Obamacare at this point

Well, bakes, the same "rational" humans that put these clowns in office and believe they're working for them in DC and not their corporate lobby.

03-24-2017 , 07:18 PM

#21361

pudley4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Definitely got a troll vibe from a couple of his posts, but I do believe that he is sincere.

We have to keep in mind that America's government is very complicated to those who haven't grown up in it. I'd run out of digits before counting the amount of times I've had to explain the EC to people in Europe only to have them leave with an even more confused look than they had before asking.

Can't you explain it like this: Imagine if the countries in the EU got "EU lawmaking votes" in relative proportion to their population, plus two more. Then whenever something came up that needed to be voted on in the EU, each country would let their people vote and the country would put all of it's "lawmaking votes" toward the side that won.

03-24-2017 , 07:20 PM

#21362

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

The American-led military coalition in Iraq said Friday that it was investigating reports that scores of civilians — perhaps as many as 200, residents said — had been killed in recent American airstrikes in Mosul, the northern Iraqi city at the center of an offensive to drive out the Islamic State.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/24/w...e-iphone-share

03-24-2017 , 07:24 PM

#21363

OmgGlutten!

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

OK where's where I can't tell if Bannon is just dumb or saving face and just a normal free market Republican who just wants to put white people first on cultural issues. "It's obvious in the last few days" that this bill goes against Trump's populist appeals? Where was he for the entirety of the bill? It was 100% obvious that this wasn't going to make insurance "better" which is supposedly what the populists want. If you could read any analysis on the bill it would have told you that. It was to cut taxes. You could say that he wants to "dismantle the administrative state" but then he'd be supporting the Freedom Caucus, who want to cut all the regulation out, not against them.

Yeah, none of this has made any sense.

03-24-2017 , 07:25 PM

#21364

ASAP17

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,882

Quite powerful from one of the faces of FOX News:

03-24-2017 , 07:25 PM

#21365

einbert

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My instincts tell me Bannon was against the bill because it was unpopular and he thought it was a poison pill for Trump, moreso than any ideological orientation. But it's hard to tell with Bannon, he's a tough shadowy figure.

03-24-2017 , 07:26 PM

#21366

OmgGlutten!

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

So when do we get the balanced budget or any budget at all?

If democrats refuse to vote yes on anything...

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03-24-2017 , 07:28 PM

#21367

RV Life

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Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

Bannon wants government to fail doesn't he? The GOP being this incompetent is probably making him very happy.

03-24-2017 , 07:28 PM

#21368

Dominic

Tripod

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 74,640

Guys, I need an argument for why men should help pay for maternity leave...and there was a post here that addressed that and I can't find it. I think there is an insurance term for that...?

03-24-2017 , 07:30 PM

#21369

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

Guys, I need an argument for why men should help pay for maternity leave...and there was a post here that addressed that and I can't find it. I think there is an insurance term for that...?

1. Men should get just as much leave
2. It should be family leave, not just maternity, as it should be flexible to use on, say, an ailing parent.

03-24-2017 , 07:33 PM

#21370

OmgGlutten!

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

I guess the main difference between Koch and Bannon/Mercers is immigration? I'm honestly not sure. The Bannon stuff seems to be centered almost entirely on racism with very little policy details. He said he wanted to spend a billion on infrastructure. I have also seen the Harvard Alt Right guys talking about how single payer healthcare is good, we just need to get rid of minorities.

03-24-2017 , 07:33 PM

#21371

Dominic

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Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 74,640

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

1. Men should get just as much leave
2. It should be family leave, not just maternity, as it should be flexible to use on, say, an ailing parent.

I agree...but I'm looking for the term that explains why I pay taxes for public education when I don' have children (which I'm happy to do).

I could've sworn this was called something...

03-24-2017 , 07:38 PM

#21372

sylar

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 20,307

Koch's are going to be mad at bannon for making their 2018/2020 efforts that much harder. They'll likely have to spend $10B next cycle.

03-24-2017 , 07:40 PM

#21373

markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/24/w...e-iphone-share

Thanks Obama.

03-24-2017 , 07:40 PM

#21374

m_reed05

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Somewhat buried in the news today.

Woolsey wants to clear things up before people start getting arrested.

Might be time for Flynn indictment watch thread.

Last edited by m_reed05; 03-24-2017 at 07:50 PM.

03-24-2017 , 07:40 PM

#21375

ScreaminAsian

For President

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 33,333

Quote:

Originally Posted by raheem

Part of the reason why Trump chose General Mattis to be Secretary of Defense is he looks a lot like General Patton.

trump definitely watched a ton of history channel in the 90s because it was all about hitler. this is wildly correct and my heart rate is increasing to dangerous levels

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