Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

03-23-2017 , 07:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirbynator
wow did all the bots leave Breitbart or something ? *
Bots are too busy right now getting Marine Le Garbage elected to shore up Trump's flagging support. Priorities etc
03-23-2017 , 07:12 PM
Random question/thought - everyone says if you impeach Trump that just means President Pence. But, Pence was on the Trump ticket and part of the Trump campaign. If the impeachable offenses are related to campaign shenanigans with Russia or whatever, is it possible to impeach Pence as VP simultaneously, or otherwise prevent him from ascending to the presidency (resulting in a severely neutered President Ryan instead)?

More broadly, the real point/question I'm posing is - if the punishment of being found guilty of impeachable election tampering means that your #2 still keeps power - isn't that still a pretty damn good incentive to engage in this kind of behavior to win at all costs anyway, knowing that even the downside of being caught is still vastly better for your side than losing?
03-23-2017 , 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by goofyballer
Hm, maybe depends on viewing location if you aren't in USA?
If you click that in London, you get 'Police identify Westminster attacker' and a round-up of the latest developments on the crime. You do not get a picture of Trump apparently trying to re-enact the Father Ted episode, 'Speed 3', with the milk-float wired to explode if it goes under 5mph.


Last edited by 57 On Red; 03-23-2017 at 07:19 PM.
03-23-2017 , 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by goofyballer
Random question/thought - everyone says if you impeach Trump that just means President Pence. But, Pence was on the Trump ticket and part of the Trump campaign. If the impeachable offenses are related to campaign shenanigans with Russia or whatever, is it possible to impeach Pence as VP simultaneously, or otherwise prevent him from ascending to the presidency (resulting in a severely neutered President Ryan instead)?

More broadly, the real point/question I'm posing is - if the punishment of being found guilty of impeachable election tampering means that your #2 still keeps power - isn't that still a pretty damn good incentive to engage in this kind of behavior to win at all costs anyway, knowing that even the downside of being caught is still vastly better for your side than losing?
This is pretty good

It does appear that if you're only interested in 4 years to jam whatever policies through that you truly believe in, the EV in rigging seems to be to the right of zero
03-23-2017 , 07:22 PM
Does anyone think a lot of weird things have been happening this week? Far more so than other weeks of Trump's presidency?

Last edited by raheem; 03-23-2017 at 07:47 PM.
03-23-2017 , 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raheem
Does anyone think a lot of weird things have been happening this week? Far more so than other weeks of Trump's presideny?
03-23-2017 , 07:53 PM
GOP policy on health care is deficient so it makes political sense they would punt the issue and continue to blame Dems for all shortcomings

https://twitter.com/BresPolitico/sta...56007558610944
03-23-2017 , 07:57 PM
This is all so glorious. Reality is finally asserting itself.

The reason Trump could spout all those lies in the campaign is that he didn't know any better. He's now learning.
03-23-2017 , 08:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by simplicitus
He's now learning.
I literally wouldn't bet a nickel on that at 10,000:1 odds.
03-23-2017 , 08:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by simplicitus
This is all so glorious. Reality is finally asserting itself.

The reason Trump could spout all those lies in the campaign is that he didn't know any better. He's now learning.
I still think Trump is very smart. I just worry he has bad intentions.
03-23-2017 , 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Namath12
Would exclusive access to the pee vid (if it exists ldo) be worth $1 billion?
No matter how high the dollar (or ruble) amount is, we know it would be the fastest and most successful GoFundMe of all time.
03-23-2017 , 08:04 PM
You know when Trump says he'll deport criminal illegal immigrants? The way he might define criminal is anyone who crosses the border unlawfully. Which means he'll deport every single one, like he said in the Kentucky speech.
03-23-2017 , 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raheem
You know when Trump says he'll deport criminal illegal immigrants? The way he might define criminal is anyone who crosses the border unlawfully. Which means he'll deport every single one, like he said in the Kentucky speech.
Of course. Everyone with a brain knew that was what he meant since "Mexicans are rapists" way back in 2015.
03-23-2017 , 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raheem
I still think Trump is very smart.
lol wat? Why?
03-23-2017 , 08:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
lol wat? Why?
Cause he's rich, LDO.
03-23-2017 , 08:12 PM
The man has spent almost his entire adult life in front of TV cameras. It would be foolish to think his public persona is anything other than an act.
03-23-2017 , 08:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
lol wat? Why?
Nazis were smart.
03-23-2017 , 08:14 PM
im surprised some trump voters are actually aware enough to realize the healthcare isnt everything he promised, and that maybe he's just a bull****ter.

I guess those are voters that mostly hated Clinton and werent deep in the trump sewers
03-23-2017 , 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Of course. Everyone with a brain knew that was what he meant since "Mexicans are rapists" way back in 2015.
I had a brain, but I was brainwashed. My ex-gf was very conservative and that affected my thinking.

Please, don't be a snarky elitist. These Trump supporters, some of them are smart, but they're just brainwashed.

I woke up from the brainwashing on Monday.
03-23-2017 , 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkubus
The man has spent almost his entire adult life in front of TV cameras. It would be foolish to think his public persona is anything other than an act.
Such a bad take. If it's an act, it's one he has long-internalized. It IS his real personality now.
03-23-2017 , 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raheem
I had a brain, but I was brainwashed. My ex-gf was very conservative and that affected my thinking.

Please, don't be a snarky elitist. These Trump supporters, some of them are smart, but they're just brainwashed.

I woke up from the brainwashing on Monday.
So what did this administration do to directly affect you on Monday ?
03-23-2017 , 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raheem
I had a brain, but I was brainwashed. My ex-gf was very conservative and that affected my thinking.

Please, don't be a snarky elitist. These Trump supporters, some of them are smart, but they're just brainwashed.

I woke up from the brainwashing on Monday.
What caused this?
03-23-2017 , 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raheem
Nazis were smart.
Well not really, but that wasn't my point anyway. My point wasn't that he's stupid because he's evil. Steve Bannon is evil, but I don't think he's particularly stupid. I think Trump's stupid because he's stupid. He knows nothing about anything and hates learning. He displays no facility for seeing complex solutions to complex problems. Illegal immigration is a problem? Build a wall. That's how all of his thinking is. He's the businessman donk of every live poker game. If he has the nuts, he's gonna overbet the river and make a big speech about how he never gets hands.
03-23-2017 , 08:21 PM
I haven't read anything that says that Trump isn't just as shallow, dumb, and narcissistic as he is in front of the cameras

Quote:
His latest outrageous edict on banning all Muslims from entering the country comes as no surprise to me based on the man I met nearly 20 years ago. He has no coherent political philosophy, so comparisons with Fascist leaders miss the mark. He just reacts. Trump lives in a fantasy of perfection, with himself as its animating force.
Quote:
I was prepared to like him as I boarded his black 727 at La Guardia for the flight to Mar-a-Lago, his Florida home—prepared to discover that his over-the-top public persona was a clever pose. That underneath was an ironic wit, an ordinary but clever guy. But no. With Trump, what you see is what you get. His behavior was cringe-worthy. He showed off the gilded interior of his plane—calling me over to inspect a Renoir on its walls, beckoning me to lean in closely to see . . . what? The luminosity of the brush strokes? The masterly use of color? No. The signature. “Worth $10 million,” he told me. Time after time the stories he told me didn’t check out, from Michael Jackson’s romantic weekend at Mar-a-Lago with his then wife Lisa Marie Presley (they stayed at opposite ends of the estate) to the rug in one bedroom he said was designed by Walt Disney when he was 18 (it wasn’t) to the strength of his marriage to Maples (they would split months later).

It was hard to watch the way he treated those around him, issuing peremptory orders—“Polish this, Tony. Today.” He met with the lady who selected his drapery for the Florida estate—“The best! The best! She’s a genius!”—who had selected a sampling of fabrics for him to choose from, all different shades of gold. He left the choice to her, saying only, “I want it really rich. Rich, rich, elegant, incredible.” Then, “Don’t disappoint me.” It was a pattern. Trump did not make decisions. He surrounded himself with “geniuses” and delegated. So long as you did not “disappoint” him—and it was never clear how to avoid doing so—you were gold.

What was clear was how fast and far one could fall from favor. The trip from “genius” to “idiot” was a flash. The former pilots who flew his plane were geniuses, until they made one too many bumpy landings and became “****ing idiots.” The gold carpeting selected in his absence for the locker rooms in the spa at Mar-a-Lago? “What kind of ****ing idiot . . . ?” I watched as Trump strutted around the beautifully groomed clay tennis courts on his estate, managed by noted tennis pro Anthony Boulle. The courts had been prepped meticulously for a full day of scheduled matches. Trump took exception to the design of the spaces between courts. In particular, he didn’t like a small metal box—a pump and cooler for the water fountain alongside—which he thought looked ugly. He first questioned its placement, then crudely disparaged it, then kicked the box, which didn’t budge, and then stooped—red-faced and fuming—to tear it loose from its moorings, rupturing a water line and sending a geyser to soak the courts. Boulle looked horrified, a weekend of tennis abruptly drowned. Catching a glimpse of me watching, Trump grimaced.

“I guess that’ll have to be in your story,” he said.

“Pretty much,” I told him.

This apparently worried him, because on the flight home a day later he had a proposition.

“I’m looking for somebody to write my next book,” he told me.

I told him that I would not be interested.

“Why not?” he asked. “All my books become best-sellers.”

The import was clear. There was money in it for me. Trump remains the only person I have ever written about who tried to bribe me.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/...layboy-profile
03-23-2017 , 08:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheatrich
radicals, trump's kids, who knows they'll find a way. There are no qualifications so he could put literally anyone on there.
I don't see 37% approval rating Trump pulling Gorsuch and nominating some disaster for the court.

      
m