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03-22-2017 , 03:02 PM

#20426

thethethe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSwag

I'm worried Trump will use today's terrorist attack as leverage for some insane new idea.

England let Hadrian's Wall crumble = terrorist attack

America going to build a bigly wall = no terror attack!

03-22-2017 , 03:03 PM

#20427

Namath12

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And. Here. We. Go.

https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/statu...24553053765632

03-22-2017 , 03:04 PM

#20428

champstark

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God Nunes is going to use this to distract from everything else and make Trump the victim, great

03-22-2017 , 03:07 PM

#20429

JPantz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSwag

I'm worried Trump will use today's terrorist attack as leverage for some insane new idea.

Same. SAD that my first response is, great what is trump going to do now.

03-22-2017 , 03:09 PM

#20430

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

God Nunes is going to use this to distract from everything else and make Trump the victim, great

What am I missing? You mean that his communications might have been collected? Nunes said himself this is normal and legal. No?

03-22-2017 , 03:10 PM

#20431

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

What am I missing? You mean that his communications might have been collected? Nunes said himself this is normal and legal. No?

No Nunes is claiming that names were unmasked or whatever completely inappropriately--it sounds like legality isn't at issue, just ethics (I think?)

It's all a bull**** smokescreen, of course.

03-22-2017 , 03:13 PM

#20432

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Like WHY in the ACTUAL **** is the chairman of the committee tasked with investigating matters related to Trump running to the White House to brief Trump on leaked information he has? WTF??? If Nunes is still on this committee tomorrow they can go ahead and shut it down afaic, it literally means nothing.

03-22-2017 , 03:22 PM

#20433

Namath12

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https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/stat...29063209811969

ya think?

03-22-2017 , 03:22 PM

#20434

kypreanus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSwag

I'm worried Trump will use today's terrorist attack as leverage for some insane new idea.

Should we ban cars as they kill people and keep resisting his attempt to stop the flow of terrorists?

03-22-2017 , 03:23 PM

#20435

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chippa58

Spicer just said it would be "highly irresponsible" to comment about who might have been involved in the terror attack in England. But in every similar instance before now, Trump has immediately assigned blame. So I guess Spicer is saying Trump was highly irresponsible.

03-22-2017 , 03:24 PM

#20436

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kypreanus

Don't take my word, take David Horowitz' or Thomas Sowell's.

David Horowitz: "These are not liberals, these are vicious people""

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZbHDR0huB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD_8SJKAjc

Woah, you're citing a black guy and a Jew. You can't be racist.

03-22-2017 , 03:26 PM

#20437

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Originally Posted by Autocratic

I've posted about this, possibly in this thread. Trump and his people are not agents of Russia in the sense that their primary motivation is furthering Russian interests. That seems to be the standard liberal line on this situation, and it's incoherent nonsense. These people aren't aligning with Russia, they are aligning with capital that happens to be in Russia.

Unlikely that is the sole motivation of all of them.

03-22-2017 , 03:27 PM

#20438

kypreanus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Woah, you're citing a black guy and a Jew. You can't be racist.

You notice them by skin color and religion. Race baiter?

I value their intellectual honesty, which is rare nowadays, especially here. And if they say you are wrong, and Trump is right, I'm sorry, but you lose.

03-22-2017 , 03:28 PM

#20439

champstark

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Apparently Nunes even saying there are multiple FISA warrants out on Trump is a major breach of classified info

03-22-2017 , 03:31 PM

#20440

Namath12

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Don't listen to my stupid conservaturd opinion, look at what these other two conservaturds had to say!

BIG AGENDA WRITER AGREES WITH ME SEE ALSO YOUTOOOOBBBBBBSSSS

03-22-2017 , 03:32 PM

#20441

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Originally Posted by Namath12

I actually did not know that Devin Nunes was part of Trump's transition team until today.

Not sure how the hell I missed that, but obviously if that's the case then the concept of Nunes sitting as the chair of the committee investigating this is ludicrous. Even if he's completely innocent he shouldn't be within 500 feet of this investigation.

I just appreciate that Nunes today indicated Trump was in contact with foreign spies/agents. That's what Nunes stupid press conference was about. Trying to reprove obama wiretapped trump. Yet nothing he said makes what Comey said untrue or Trunp right/vindicated.

Yet Nunes confirmed trump was in contact with a foreign agent who was under advanced surveillance. So let's find out about who, what, when, why.

03-22-2017 , 03:34 PM

#20442

kypreanus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

Don't listen to my stupid conservaturd opinion, look at what these other two conservaturds had to say!

BIG AGENDA WRITER AGREES WITH ME SEE ALSO YOUTOOOOBBBBBBSSSS

Typical leftist tactic. Can't beat them in an argument so have to resort to childish name calling. No wonder why your side lost.

03-22-2017 , 03:34 PM

#20443

suzzer99

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Let's check with Chiefsplanet - yep, Trump completely vindicated by Nunes - GOOD DAY SIR!

03-22-2017 , 03:37 PM

#20444

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Everything nunes said had nothing to do with what trump said. and yeah they appear to be going straight to WH with whatever they learn and that's why comey tried to avoid telling them all anything. Still can't fully trust comey or burr (senate intel chair) but DEFINITELY can't trust nunes to do anything other than make it a farce.

Also the info nunes got he didn't tell schiff about any of it before he went public with it. WAAF.

Nunes said his info isn't about russia, yeah there's other countries these people are involved in. I'll pick china. I'll wager we spy on them too.

Sure looks like Nunes tipped off someone or someones and that's one of those things that should put him in jail. Whether he goes or not still up for grabs.

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03-22-2017 , 03:37 PM

#20445

einbert

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http://nunes.house.gov/news/document...umentID=398673

Quote:

Press Releases
Nunes Named to Trump Transition Team
Washington, November 11, 2016 | 0 comments

Congressman Devin Nunes (CA-22) released the following statement today after joining the executive committee of Donald Trump’s transition team:

“Today I was honored to have been named to the executive committee of President-elect Donald Trump's transition team. In this role, I will advise President-elect Trump on the appointments of his Cabinet members and on appointments to other top positions in the new administration. I look forward to helping to assemble an energetic and forward-looking team that will capably lead our country toward more economic growth, greater opportunity, and a safer homeland for all Americans.”

03-22-2017 , 03:37 PM

#20446

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poconoder

Also every cabinet member was appointed by Trump, they owe their jobs to Russian influence getting Trump elected, are we going to throw them all out too?

only a russian agent determined to destroy america would appoint rick perry secretary of energy

03-22-2017 , 03:37 PM

#20447

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kypreanus

David Horowitz: "These are not liberals, these are vicious people""

Quote:

Originally Posted by kypreanus

Typical leftist tactic. Can't beat them in an argument so have to resort to childish name calling.

lol

03-22-2017 , 03:45 PM

#20448

kypreanus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

lol

So?

Calling out people who are not liberal, but rather totalitarian, and calling them evil is somehow childish like his post?

03-22-2017 , 03:46 PM

#20449

markksman

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Originally Posted by einbert

Because it's not a political issue. It's a matter of national and global security at this point. The integrity of our very democratic process is at stake.

Yeah Dvaut's take on this, along with some others that Russia whatever because they are seemingly fatigued with it is pretty off point.

If you just add up all the people with simple or complex ties to the Russian government who have worked for trump and his campaign or still do it is insane. It's not like any previous administration had all these direct connections with one of our primary adversaries in the world.

That people don't grasp the real and ongoing security threat Russia poses is alarming. That people don't then increase that concern by magnitudes based on all the Trump administration connections to Russia is irresponsible.

A huge number of people elected trump for president so I guess it should not really surprise me when a lot of people are also convinced Russia, whatevs.

03-22-2017 , 03:50 PM

#20450

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

Remember too that Russia Fretting is the absolute favorite, most cherished notion of the dying class of Never Trumpers, faux moderates, the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Evan McMullins of the world, people wedded to the old status quo, etc. That's no accident. No accident at all. Getting the rest of the GOP off the hook and having precisely ZERO introspection of what built to this is HUGELY important to them. They desperately want Trump off the scene but then everything set back to the world order ante Trump where Democrats are feckless idiots and there's an angry white rabble of morons frothing at the mouth channeling their energy into the Mitt Romney campaign, not a genuine idiot like Trump.

Just remember that Russia RUSSIA RUSSIA! is not just bad idea but a coherent strategy. They see it as the Krytonite that sinks Trump but sets the scene back to the way they had it before. "GOP is cruel and incompetent" is a one way ticket to Bernie Sanders style leftist populism with a bunch of moochers demanding free college and health care and who knows what will happen to capital gains tax rates then? Hugely risky, they could have another New Deal on their hands here and this whole project was to roll all that **** back. They can't let that build. They'll take a second or third best outcome where the GOP are hapless victims to a Co-Opted Trump but now that he's gone, everyone play nicely now, 2006 wasn't so bad, give Jeb a try, lessons learned.

You are so far off base with all this. Russia is a huge threat to our country as is the Trump administration. The two things are not mutually exclusive and you don't need one to deal with the other. They both can be dealt with separately even as they overlap.

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