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03-22-2017 , 12:31 AM

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yo, tillerson... csb

03-22-2017 , 12:46 AM

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amoeba

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Originally Posted by batair

He is also ok with large cuts in the State Department against a whole crap load of generals wishes. By them more bullets is the strategy i guess.

Nowhere in that article is it stated that he is ok with the cuts.

03-22-2017 , 12:49 AM

#20278

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https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/sta...84272060436480

03-22-2017 , 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by amoeba

Nowhere in that article is it stated that he is ok with the cuts.

Technicality police in here, he's already stated he's firmly behind the cuts to the state dept.

03-22-2017 , 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

Technicality police in here, he's already stated he's firmly behind the cuts to the state dept.

If this is true, then I was wrong.

03-22-2017 , 12:57 AM

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In the midst of all of this craziness, let's not forget that Jeff Sessions LIED under oath in his confirmation hearings. But he's still Attorney General. What the hell is going on? Why aren't Republicans across the board calling for his resignation?

03-22-2017 , 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by amoeba

Nowhere in that article is it stated that he is ok with the cuts.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson graciously falls in line, agrees his department needs budget cuts

What you think he wont do what trump wants?

03-22-2017 , 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by batair

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson graciously falls in line, agrees his department needs budget cuts

What you think he wont do what trump wants?

I am only pro Tillerson to the level of preferring him over someone like John Bolton.

If you initially posted this article instead of the previous one, i wouldnt have said anything.

03-22-2017 , 01:47 AM

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I wasn't going to post any article because i thought it was well known. Only linked it for the generals and admirals info. Fair enough though.

03-22-2017 , 02:55 AM

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When this is all over, whatever's left of humanity is probably never going to let white people have the vote ever again,

03-22-2017 , 03:16 AM

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just saw this tidbit from the tillerson article

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he humbly explained that he had never met the president before the election. As president-elect, Trump wanted to have a conversation with Tillerson “about the world” given what he gleaned from the complex global issues he dealt with as CEO of Exxon Mobil.

“When he asked me at the end of that conversation to be secretary of state, I was stunned.”

What in the ****ing ****?

Did I read that right?

Trump had ONE conversation with Tillerson and asked him to be secretary of state?

you can't make this **** up. Wow.

03-22-2017 , 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

just saw this tidbit from the tillerson article

What in the ****ing ****?

Did I read that right?

Trump had ONE conversation with Tillerson and asked him to be secretary of state?

you can't make this **** up. Wow.

You make it seem like Trump had an actual choice. I imagine a conversation where Trump says he's thinking of Rudy, followed by a decisive "nyet" and the option of Rex or a polonium cocktail was put forward.

03-22-2017 , 04:19 AM

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I don't remember the timeline, when did Trump meet with Tillerson in relation to the Romney shenanigans? Did Tillerson just reveal (what everyone already knew) that Trump was just ****ing with Romney?

03-22-2017 , 05:03 AM

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i always thought it was suspicious that trump was ALWAYS very conciliatory about bernie voters, not even offering them anything to get their votes, but consoling them like, "wow crooked hillary really screwed you guys over, i feel bad for you". and evidently bernie was targeted by the troll army to drive unnecessary division among liberal voters with fake news reposts and deploying highly sophisticated and aggressively confrontational bots like hastendan to depress democratic turnout.

so trump has links to the fsb troll army, whether it can be proven he colluded or if he was given "bad" advice, i imagine trump will ultimately get away with it. plus what's in it for republicans in congress to stop this? lol

I made the post below to Danny but I think he has me on ignore.

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I mean, Danny and Co, when you really get going and start gleefully trotting out all the catchphrases and memes, and see a bunch of Russians in the corner rubbing their hands together and cackling, does it give you any pause, and do you ever think, damn, I know there's some truth to all this but maybe in the end we got played, hard?

03-22-2017 , 07:05 AM

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ruh roh paul manafort

03-22-2017 , 07:49 AM

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There was something earlier about how Bannon wanted Trump to meet with Romney "for optics"

03-22-2017 , 07:56 AM

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Brookings says the amended Trumpcare bill scores about the same as the original bill. The CBO hasn't scored it yet, of course, and the House is going to vote on it in less than 48 hours.

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We conclude that the changes made by the manager’s amendment will not meaningfully alter CBO’s earlier prediction that the AHCA would substantially reduce insurance coverage.

Basically all the things the moderates want that would improve the bill are offset by the things the conservatives want, nullifying each other out

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In light of the considerations discussed above, we expect that CBO’s updated estimate of the reduction in insurance coverage under the revised AHCA in 2026 is unlikely to be much below its prior estimate of 24 million, and it is possible that its revised estimate could be somewhat higher.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...fully-improve/

03-22-2017 , 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by einbert

Yeah if it wasn't for Comey breaking the law and releasing the letter to Congress about their Clinton investigation DURING THE VOTING PERIOD, she is absolutely the President right now no doubt in my mind. Now he needs to be charged with violation of the Hatch Act, especially since we know TRUMP was under investigation at the same time but he didn't feel the need to disclose that.

Back your claim that Comey broke the law.

03-22-2017 , 08:59 AM

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Even a never-Trumper calls the hypocrites out

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/st...28047461330944

03-22-2017 , 09:02 AM

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There are no Never Trumpers, only Anti-Anti-Trumpers.

03-22-2017 , 09:09 AM

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Back your claim that Comey broke the law.

Former Bush Ethics Lawyer Files Complaint Against FBI Director for Email Disclosures
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate..._director.html

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A former chief ethics lawyer at the White House, who served during George W. Bush’s presidency, has filed an ethics complaint against FBI Director James Comey. In an op-ed published in the New York Times on Sunday, Richard W. Painter writes that he filed a complaint against the FBI for violating the Hatch Act, "which bars the use of an official position to influence an election." He filed the complaint with both the Office of Special Counsel and the Office of Government Ethics.

Painter, who was the head White House ethics lawyer between 2005 and 2007 and now supports Hillary Clinton, says Comey violated the Hatch Act when he sent the letter to lawmakers on Friday informing them of the newly discovered emails. “This letter, which was quickly posted on the internet, made highly unusual public statements about an FBI investigation concerning a candidate in the election,” writes Painter. “The letter was sent in violation of a longstanding Justice Department policy of not discussing specifics about pending investigations with others, including members of Congress.”

Although Comey’s previous statements may be concerning, there is no actual evidence yet that the FBI director actually wanted to influence the election. Still, that is irrelevant as far as the Hatch Act is concerned.

Painter also warns that letting this precedent stand would be dangerous:

This is no trivial matter. We cannot allow FBI or Justice Department officials to unnecessarily publicize pending investigations concerning candidates of either party while an election is underway. That is an abuse of power. Allowing such a precedent to stand will invite more, and even worse, abuses of power in the future.

Speaking to LawNewz.com, Painter says he doesn’t buy the argument that Comey had to send the letter because he had promised to update lawmakers on the issue. The FBI director could have easily sent the letter two weeks later, after voters had gone to the polls, and no one would have been able to argue that he “breached that promise to update,” particularly considering the reports that “the FBI apparently had not even looked at the emails because they did not have a search warrant.”

03-22-2017 , 09:14 AM

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so protesting authoritarianism and civil rights abuses is for dumb people? man that ben shapiro guy must be a real intellectual powerhouse, no wonder everybody is so scared to debate him

03-22-2017 , 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by einbert

Former Bush Ethics Lawyer Files Complaint Against FBI Director for Email Disclosures
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate..._director.html

Thanks

When shall we know if that leads to anything?

03-22-2017 , 09:20 AM

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Thanks for the heads up. When someone invents a time machine I'm definitely going to start a thread so we can all discuss the important implications of that event.

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