Einbert, wheres that phone number?

wtf

Delaware, one of the ****ing bluest states, and the guy rolls over for no gain. Wtf.

Ah, the Chris Cooms that endorsed Hillary over Bernie. Who said Bernie would be ostracized by dems for not checking his tone. Who said Bernie lacked qualifications to be President.

And of course most recently was one of 13 democrats that voted against Bernie's measure to allow for the import of cheaper drugs from Canada.

Yeah, how about **** that guy and every other fake progressive corporatist piece of ****?

Drain the swamp.

Peter King would say their shared Irish heritage would make him vote for Trump. It doesn't matter, he was already in Trump's hand. He's just making up anything that comes to mind.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/21/politi...fSrc=permalink

From CNN's MJ Lee

GOP Rep. Tom Cole was in the health care meeting with Trump, who went to the Hill today to rally reluctant lawmakers on the bill.

Deal-maker Trump was in action. Rep. Cole called it "truly spectacular."

"It was vintage Trump — direct, colorful, funny, persuasive and pointed. He made it crystal clear how much was on the line. He thanked members by name who had moved in his direction and they were from across the political spectrum of the Conference. And he prodded by name some who had not yet committed. It was a tremendously effective political performance on an intimate stage before a star struck audience. Trump was first rate in every way.

He was truly spectacular. This is part of the job that he enjoys and excels at: closing the deal."

dems are weak dicks, repubs should be tried for treason. waaf

Maybe Coons felt lonely because he was one of the only senators without a full voice-mail box.

This isn't like an ideological issue per se. This is pure tactics.

Yeah just saying that guy is a taint.

The true cucks are showing their skin

Edit: "It felt so good when daddy told us we were good boys and made the bad little boys feel bad'

But how does this work? It still seems really high level and pretty distant from most Americans concerns.

The Cold War is over. Like we're not actually at war with Russia. They're not a strong ally, sure, but we have diplomatic relations with them.

As some posters have pointed out, when laying out the case Trump is a horrible bozo, some large measure of voters are saying "And?" and the left has no answer.

So when we say Russia is an evil authoritarian regime and the right functionally says the equivalent of these photos:





...which is more or less what Trump has done. What's the Democrats answer here? Oops, that was before they made us lose, now the Cold War is on again?

I'd reiterate the narrative of Democrats as America First, Don't Cross Us hotheads, calling countries we're not at war with and engage in active diplomacy with -- calling them evil -- that was supposed to be the scourge of the right-wing. That was their bit. Why are we stealing it?

I'm not asking for some sort of total historical coherence here but none of our foreign policy through the Obama Era treated Russia like an exceptionally evil, authoritarian foe. Not to give Trump undue credit here but the right has been fast to pounce on specifically this idea when Democrats trot it out ("Russia has always been our enemy!") that Obama and Clinton both wanted to IMPROVE our relationship with Russia. For better or worse, Democrats were holistically pretty mealy mouthed and circumspect in its treatment of Russia until this summer. And Democrats have never really been known for these kinds of tactics anyway.

Now you may say, well the election hacking changes everything but it seems like pretty clear reactive sour grapes and we don't have the full force of the conclusion of an investigation behind us, just tea leaves.

Also, most of this outlines of this was known to voters before the election.

I just don't see how this resonates without becoming really Orwellian in ways the right/Trump quickly identify and essentially makes a bunch of fundamentally right-wing arguments about the world ("do as we say, not as we do, but if you meddle in our affairs, we'll lambast you as evil and malignant"). I think those ARE politically effective arguments and said as much; unfortunately the audience is like John McCain and Lindsey Graham and the Bush Administration who, when push comes to shove, all went for Trump anyway. Democrats need to do more than play for second place medals from neo-cons and trophies from people with principled, virtuous defenses of Ukrainian sovereignty. I sincerely don't think our voters are really that animated by Russia Evil Now tropes, the stuff that gets John McCain and Lindsey Graham excited, and we already have everyone else cares at all about principled foreign policy beyond "whatever helps rich people."

Can def primary Chris Coons without much danger, get on that please

Dvaut, I prefer this spicy video over those pictures, but yep.

Yep. Guys like Manchin have an excuse. This guy - I have no idea. I'll probably be in Jersey in 2018, will gladly make a few drives down to oppose him. Gtfo, son.

I think it should be pointed out what Democrats are loathed to say. Yes Russia hacking the DNC is bad and helping the RNC is worse, but the problem is that what Russia was selling through the leaks to the American people is something that a lot of people want to buy; namely that Democrats are scheming, corrupt, weaklings and Trump is a masculine strongman. Pointing out that Russians did it doesn't matter much because they product in front of their face, namely a Trump presidency, is too good. It's like how vote buying was difficult to stamp out in early America. It became such a quid pro quo that talking about the sanctity of the American political system should be based on ideas not rank transactionalism angered people because they needed the money and the money was real while sanctity was not.

I think it can be two parts though. The Russian stuff can help rally the base, I mean I'm pissed off but that's because a Clinton presidency would mean finally a liberal leaning Supreme Court and avoiding all this abject nonsense, but I know a Republican agreeing to that means giving up a Supreme Court justice, whatever joy they get out of seeing Trump posturing etc. They're not going to do it. To reach those type of leaning people you have to reach out on economic or other grounds to convince them. It's a balancing act though. Too much Russia and it becomes a solipsistic exercise, too little and the base is going to be angry that you just shrugged your shoulders at foreign countries hacking the DNC and moved on.

It's like they all got MIB mind wiped on November 9th and none of them can remember what insane ****s the Republicans were for the past 6 years.

If anyone wanted something quick to read about Russia from a wider perspective (rather than a how will the Putin regime impact on people in the US) then this is worth a look - http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...he-west-214925

What? 0% chance the GOP Senate would have confirmed a Clinton SCOTUS nominee. Don't kid yourself.

Remove &t

Doesn't this laptop ban also cause problems for Americans too, though? I imagine there's plenty of white people flying to and from Dubai on business.

****ing Democrats.

Every. ****ing. Time.

Primary everyone.

Bad at it or in on it?

Gorsuch doesn't understand or is intentionally obfuscating Roe v Wade

I can warm to this argument but it seems like Democrats have hardly shrugged over Russia. Seems like we're about to shrug at approving Gorsuch and repealing Obamacare Thursday night and move on to those exciting and titillating Russia hearings.

I know I know, but I really enjoyed listening to Lindsey Graham say his piece on Gorsuch

Can someone please explain to me why pushing the Russia issue hard necessarily means that bad decisions on other issues are going to be made? Do the people approving this Gorsuch just not have time to consider that issue with the Russia issue going in the background? Don't dems etc have different roles/specialisms primarily?

I'd have thought that the possibility of an evil force like Putin interfering in the most important democratic event that the US has, and possibility bribing people who are actually now in power (or key advisers) to remove sanctions was actually a big deal.