If you listen carefully you can almost hear when Paul Ryan gets an erection at the thought of throwing old people out of nursing homes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...0be71dcf6d5a7?

I think this is where the left is being unfair. Let me preface this comment by saying **** Ryan for his cowardly and immoral support of Trump but I don't think it is fair to pretend he is trying to purposely hurt people.

The sane right (of which there are ever dwindling numbers) has a fair point about entitlements. They are simply not sustainable forever. Something has to be done to manage them so they are available for future generations. I disagree with how they are doing so, but the left is often disingenuous when they act like entitlements can grow forever with no impact on the economy.

This is a very difficult and serious conversation that should be occurring and is not helped by cheap shots on either end of the political spectrum.

I didn't say worse; I said of greater consequence. This is going to cause a great amount of uncertainty and annoyance to people flying Turkish, Royal Air Maroc, Emirates, Qatar, Ethiad, and a couple other airlines. It might be enough for some of those airlines to discontinue service--for instance Turkish and Qatar both serve Atlanta, which is a pretty marginal city and they compete tooth and nail with each other and other carriers including to non-Middle Eastern cities, like Athens or Nairobi.

Ultimately this means fewer planes coming in to the US from Muslim countries, and undoubtedly fewer Muslims coming into the US as well.

Also, travel ban 2.0 mainly impacts refugees. Tourist and other visa traffic from the six banned countries is pretty small--Iran is the largest by far with 29,000 visas issued per year. These other countries are much larger origins of travelers to the US. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt are all larger sources of new visas than the 6 banned countries combined. This will directly affect many thousands of people who fly these airlines to the US each day; the scope of effects of travel ban 2.0 is limited to a relatively tiny population.

This is also worrying in a different way since it's in response to an unspecified threat and is beyond any judicial review, as I understand.

Maxine Waters is quite possibly the single dumbest person in Congress.

You are just taking platitudes as fact.

Who says health care can not sustainably be a public service? Who says its provision would not be a benefit to the economy?

Chances of impeachment actually happening just went down by 50%

No me. I didn't say that anywhere. I live in the Canada where we have universal healthcare.

My point is entitlements can't grow forever. Especially within your awful system.

She's not the dumbest congressperson in SoCal. That'd be Duncan Hunter.

Actually the Telegraph is reporting the UK may follow suit, so perhaps this is a legitimate threat/response after all.

I'm not sure about that.

is all that is happening. You're trying to suss out some serious philosopher king discussion out of the welfare queens, useless drug testing, and "lazy poors" discussion? Let's go to the article.

Wow, it's almost like Paul Ryan is lying here. Buy why would Paul Ryan be lying if we're trying to have serious discussion?

Now as someone who follows healthcare, that's not what 'patient centered healthcare' is. 'Patient centered healthcare' has to do with care once the patient is in the healthcare system and a kind of organizing principle. Paul Ryan is using the phrase because it sounds nice in order to push for a proposal he wants. In other words, he's lying

So in that article we have Paul Ryan lying multiple times. In fact, he's lied almost the entirety of this bill order to try and get it passed. Why? Well he's explicit. It's not some philosopher king discussion about trade offs and entitlements, it's about tax cuts for the rich.

So I'm not scoring cheap political points when I think Paul Ryan is being a craven liar in order to get a bill passed so that he can give money to the rich.

If you want to argue that perhaps Paul Ryan has a worldview were he thinks doing so will help the poor, or at least is indifferent to their suffering on moral grounds, then conceded. We can probably go as far as to say that that worldview means he thinks he has to lie constantly in order to make it happen.

Not sure what the entitlement debate is about, but if it's the overall cost of heathcare then I'd think the single biggest factor is the ratio of workers to the overall population. If you are ageing, then this puts pressure on health costs. If the population was stable in terms of age and employment status then surely costs only go up in real terms if the cost of healthcare goes up faster than the whole economy.

Fun fact about Maxine: in addition to blatant corruption re: a bank she and her husband partially owned, she said looters during the la riots were not criminals.

Key phrase "what this does for conservatives." Not what it does for his constituents, not what it does for the country, not what it does for people in general. No sir.

Dollars to donuts this guy has used "identity politics" as a pejorative when talking about liberals.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/21/arnold...-ratings-feud/

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https://twitter.com/ChrisCoons/statu...32921769709569

Lol what? No, you idiots.

Lol. Dems defiantly announcing that they're going to roll over and let Republicans have a permanent lock on the SCOTUS. WAAF

we really do need to vote out all of these idiot democrats and replace them with competent human beings. no wonder they constantly get whipped by these ****ing fascists.

Democrats are the ****ing nut low Jesus ****ing Christ ****.

HOW ARE THE DEMOCRATS SO BAD AT THIS

The Democrats are literally the Nerds in this scene.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...eat-opposition

Donald Trump warned House Republicans in a closed-door meeting Tuesday that many of them could lose their seats in the 2018 elections if they don’t pass their bill to replace Obamacare.

The president’s message came a day after GOP leaders made several changes to their measure aimed at wooing reluctant Republicans, including limits to Medicaid enrollment and an accelerated phaseout of some taxes.

“Support it!” Trump told lawmakers, according to Representative Walter Jones of North Carolina, who said he still opposes the measure. He said Trump’s remarks contained “nothing in detail, except politically it’s the right thing to do.” Trump didn’t take any questions from lawmakers.

This is who we are dealing with, and we are going to give these people a hearing. gtfo

What the ****ing ****?

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...-repeal-236281

Trump warned Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows, who has led conservative opposition to the Republican health care plan, that "I'm gonna come after you" if he keeps it up, according to multiple sources.

DEMS, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. MAN THE **** UP