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03-20-2017 , 02:31 PM

#19801

lew189

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dinopoker

Tell us, do you think everyone in the US should have affordable health insurance?

Finally, a good & reasonable question.

No, I do not. I think that everyone in the US should have access to purchase affordable health insurance and I think the government should help the unemployed, children, the disabled, the destitute & the elderly pay for that insurance IF NECESSARY. But no, I do NOT think it is the US government's responsibility to make sure that every citizen has health insurance. I think, unless & until there is a Constitutional amendment, the Gov't has no business determining whether or not every able-bodied citizen in the US has health insurance.

03-20-2017 , 02:32 PM

#19802

einbert

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There's no way we can confirm a SCOTUS justice for a POTUS that is under active criminal investigation by the FBI.

03-20-2017 , 02:33 PM

#19803

Kirbynator

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Originally Posted by lew189

you dont want a first world country

03-20-2017 , 02:39 PM

#19804

aoFrantic

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How do you screw up answering "should everyone have affordable health insurance?"

03-20-2017 , 02:40 PM

#19805

RV Life

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Originally Posted by lew189

So then you agree that not everyone is equal? Why do you hate America?

03-20-2017 , 02:44 PM

#19806

RV Life

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I love how you casually say "access to purchase affordable health insurance."

I have access to purchase Shaq's $20 million home out on the market. Doesn't mean I can afford it.

So, what is your definition of affordable health insurance? Like, if I have cancer and cannot work because of my cancer, what in your mind is a good solution to pay for the healthcare I need so I don't die?

03-20-2017 , 02:44 PM

#19807

lew189

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

Sigh. Before I go digging, I just want to confirm that you are actually stating that the NYT is not notoriously slanted left?

In regards to this tweet, do you think that I believe that just because an organization is slanted that every single piece they write/publish/tweet HAS to be slanted? The NYT employs hundreds of reporters, do you think I believe they're all incredibly biased? Of course not. In the same way, I doubt everyone at FOX News or Breitbart is incredibly biased. OK, you may have me on Breitbart, but you get the point I hope.

03-20-2017 , 02:44 PM

#19808

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Originally Posted by Riverman

Well if there is one thing holding USA #1 back, it's definitely some companies voluntarily offering maternity benefits.

How does this **** even make sense in their brains?

Because they are focused to a pathological degree on anyone "getting something for nothing". They would rather have no benefits for anyone than have 1 person out of a million game the system. It's a really weird way to look at the world.

Mind you, these are the same people who undoubtedly pad their charitable donations on their 1040 every year.

03-20-2017 , 02:45 PM

#19809

lew189

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

you dont want a first world country

We're in a first world country and have been for quite some time, as far as I know.

03-20-2017 , 02:46 PM

#19810

m_reed05

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Christ Almighty this hearing is good for only one thing. Showing how badly we need an independent investigation.

03-20-2017 , 02:46 PM

#19811

lew189

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Originally Posted by RV Life

Did I not mention the unemployed? Pretty sure I did.

"Affordable Health Insurance," by my definition, is health insurance that can be afforded.

03-20-2017 , 02:50 PM

#19812

Spottswoode

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It's amazing watching this session that the republicans are more concerned about protecting party lines than actually getting to the truth.

03-20-2017 , 02:50 PM

#19813

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Originally Posted by RV Life

It's a bit nonsensical. The government should ensure access to affordable health coverage, but shouldn't provide affordable health coverage because something something freedom. In either case the government's going to be pushing its weight around.

03-20-2017 , 02:51 PM

#19814

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lew189

Did I not mention the unemployed? Pretty sure I did.

You did. And it shows you clearly do not understand how this works.

Insurance premiums would go up for those that have healthcare which in turns makes healthcare not to be affordable.

So, let me ask you again.

What is your definition of affordable health insurance. What is a good solution for those that can't afford healthcare to have it so they don't die?

Remember, affordable healthcare. These are your words.

Unless you mean you just like to throw together random talking points to make yourself sound smart when in reality you simply do not know?

03-20-2017 , 02:53 PM

#19815

Huehuecoyotl

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White House press secretary Sean Spicer on Monday defended President Trump’s frequent trips to his golf course in West Palm Beach, Fla., arguing that the president uses the game differently than his predecessor did.

NBC News reported over the weekend that Trump made his 10th visit to Trump International Golf Club since the inauguration.

Spicer pointed to Trump's meeting with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, arguing that they were able to develop their relationship while playing golf.

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When pressed by Yahoo News reporter Hunter Walker on why the White House doesn’t disclose those meetings in further details, Spicer said it’s a matter of privacy.

“The president is entitled to a little bit of privacy at some point,” Spicer said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-his-golf-club

Problem solved. The president is working while he's golfing every weekend. Or rather his team is and they're thankful that he's hitting balls so they can finally get some work done.

Quote:

Several people with knowledge of the discussions said having Trump on the golf course wasn’t a bad thing for his team, who could wade more into the nitty-gritty and have “real talk” with the conservatives. They fear that when he meets with legislators or interest groups that he’ll promise them too much – or change the terms under discussion altogether. “It’s easier to negotiate sometimes without Trump,” one adviser said.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...36266?lo=ap_d1

03-20-2017 , 02:54 PM

#19816

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lew189

We're in a first world country and have been for quite some time, as far as I know.

By the Cold War definition, sure.

03-20-2017 , 03:00 PM

#19817

revots33

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Probably a net positive for the country if Trump spends as much time as possible on a golf course.

03-20-2017 , 03:00 PM

#19818

aoFrantic

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So, you first said organizationally the NYT had a liberal bias, but then backtracked that only specific reporters do, because you don't understand how newspapers work or that editors exist.

03-20-2017 , 03:05 PM

#19819

phillydilly

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Originally Posted by Spottswoode

It's amazing watching this session that the republicans are more concerned about protecting party lines than actually getting to the truth.

why? seriously. this should not be remotely surprising.

03-20-2017 , 03:10 PM

#19820

fuluck414

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lew189

In that case, we can turn those without insurance away at the Emergency room door right?

03-20-2017 , 03:11 PM

#19821

Riverman

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If you expected anything different from the GOP clown brigade, at this point, you're just plain dumb. Their bull**** is like the most predictable thing imaginable.

03-20-2017 , 03:11 PM

#19822

Huehuecoyotl

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https://twitter.com/JamesArkin/statu...96952400109568

Two wrongs don't make a right? Who is this appealing to? Also, this is carte blanche for Republicans to forever f*ck with you.

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03-20-2017 , 03:12 PM

#19823

golfnutt

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

You mean, it sounds like, "I want the government involved so that the government doesn't get involved."

How does the government assure affordability? By either subsidizing or forcing for-profit companies to reduce their profit.

Sounds like they are heavily involved. Just like they are now for the age 65+ market.

03-20-2017 , 03:13 PM

#19824

Riverman

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And given their effort to erase any Manafort connection, the real dirt comes through him.

03-20-2017 , 03:19 PM

#19825

markksman

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

So, you first said organizationally the NYT had a liberal bias, but then backtracked that only specific reporters do, because you don't understand how newspapers work or that editors exist.

He doesn't seem to understand how media works.

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