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03-19-2017 , 10:27 AM

#19601

FlyWf

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Oh and as further proof that Chapo sets the agenda, two episodes ago(BEFORE The Forward's scoop) they had James Adomian come on with his absolutely pitch perfect Gorka:
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-ho...an-gorka-31217

03-19-2017 , 10:53 AM

#19602

master3004

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Originally Posted by kypreanus

That's a great argument to bring up his height.

He is a really good debater who will debate any leftist or democrat that matter. Too bad that that too often the safe space seeking leftists, including the teachers and administrators try to shut his speechers down, even though he encourages discussion and debate between the two camps.

Jordan B Peterson has also discussed the toxic climate, and the problems that come with the lack of debate between the two sides.

Oh yes I have attented university.

Jordan Peterson is an idiot who doesn't understand how laws work. It sure is amazing that he had no problem at all with the Canadian Human Rights act until they decided to add gender identity as a protected class. Its almost as if he has some kind of personal issue with people being transgendered, and it has nothing to do with government overreach at all... but nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

03-19-2017 , 11:00 AM

#19603

master3004

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Originally Posted by Autocratic

I am genuinely shocked to learn that Ben Shapiro went to law school, because every time I've heard him talk about the law he has been wildly off base.

The reading of True Allegiance (his novel lolol) by the Chapo Trap House dudes had be rolling. Anyone who thinks he is of notable intelligence should read that book IMO.

That's because he makes so much more money off of idiots buying his books and booking him to be a talking head than he ever would as a lawyer.

03-19-2017 , 11:18 AM

#19604

wheatrich

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Originally Posted by einbert

Okay I get that you are trolling us now but you aren't even trying at this point.

It's quite sad to me the lack of self awareness here because it's obvious you're one of that group.

House intel chair says no collusion between russia and trump campaign today. There's gonna be some major liberal butthurt whenever that gets concluded.

03-19-2017 , 11:23 AM

#19605

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

I can't find any reference to this. Link.

I'm guessing you are just making **** up.

03-19-2017 , 11:25 AM

#19606

einbert

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Fascinating that he would say that when he hasn't heard Comey's testimony yet. Because it's TOMORROW.

03-19-2017 , 11:27 AM

#19607

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

I can't find any reference to this. Link.

I'm guessing you are just making **** up.

Nunes is deep in Trump's pocket. This is one problem with the ongoing investigations. They're being handled in an extremely partisan fashion. We need a Special Prosecutor, ASAP. Nunes and Chaffetz are the Committee Heads handling the current investigations and they have proven to be partisan propaganda guys from the start.

03-19-2017 , 11:34 AM

#19608

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Here's something ACTUALLY authoritarian: Jeff Sessions LIED under oath, at his confirmation hearings. When it was found out that he PERJURED HIMSELF IN CONFIRMATION HEARINGS, he was allowed to stay on as Attorney General. He wasn't even required to come back and testify again.

That's authoritarian rule. And it's alllllll on the right right now.

03-19-2017 , 11:34 AM

#19609

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The Trump wing is leaning towards health care socialism, seems like it's a race between the Trump ethnonationists and progressives who can best take care of the American people.

I'd be curious to see if Trump would actually do something like this or if he's simply too dumb to have the initiative to do something like that and will continue to hand everything over to institutional Republicans to handle government policies.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...ruddy-medicaid

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A*key Trump friend and ally is urging the president to dump Paul Ryan’s Affordable Health Care Act and embrace something that sounds sort of like a lightweight version of a single-payer health care system. Christopher Ruddy, CEO of the conservative Newsmax brand, isn’t normally considered a major thought leader on policy issues, but he is a longtime friend of Trump’s, and counts as one of a relatively small number of conservative players who have closer ties to Trump than to congressional Republican leaders.

He goes on to propose a Medicaid light program to cover everyone.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/1....html?referer=

Another Republican hoping on the progressive boat.

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The folks who Hillary Clinton called the ‘deplorables’ are actually those who want better coverage, who we’d be hurting if we don’t change this bill,” Mr. Cassidy said, noting that Mr. Trump promised “he’d give them better care.”

The senator, a physician who once worked in his state’s charity hospital network, bluntly said that the philosophical debate was over and that his party ought to be pragmatic about how best to create a more cost-efficient and comprehensive health care system.

“There’s a widespread recognition that the federal government, Congress, has created the right for every American to have health care,” he said, warning that to throw people off their insurance or make coverage unaffordable would only shift costs back to taxpayers by burdening emergency rooms. “If you want to be fiscally responsible, then coverage is better than no coverage.”

03-19-2017 , 11:36 AM

#19610

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

Not that a tap of the brakes isn't warranted, but Nunes loves to use that line in public when the house committee hasn't done **** yet. The senators who have actually been briefed by Comey haven't been running to reporters with that line. Nunes=Spicer.

03-19-2017 , 11:41 AM

#19611

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Originally Posted by m_reed05

Yeah really that morning show appearance by Nunes today is going to be some very very serious evidence that there MUST be a special prosecutor ASAP. Congress is being way too partisan about this, this is a matter of national security.

Let's call Nunes and give him a piece of our minds on this one. Tell him to stop treating this like a political game, this is serious ****.
Devin Nunes: (559) 323-5235

03-19-2017 , 11:59 AM

#19612

aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

Why all the terrible hot takes this morning? Bracket busted?

03-19-2017 , 12:03 PM

#19613

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This may have been posted before, but I can't resist. It's perfect.

https://twitter.com/ItsKyleReese/sta...698881025?s=09

03-19-2017 , 12:04 PM

#19614

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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit

The Trump Organization provides more details wrt to turning over the money it makes from foreign officials. They will provide the funds to the Treasury in annual payments and the first payment won't be made until the end of next year (2018).

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...on-to-treasury

Anyone want to predict whether any payments will be made, and, if so, how much financial chicanery will go into both depressing the amount of $ they decide that they have to turn over and making it virtually impossible for neutral parties to determine if they coughed up the right amount?

Things a Ponzi scam say for $500?

03-19-2017 , 12:05 PM

#19615

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

I'd like to see some polling to know if my political transition reflects a broader trend.

When I was in my 20s I would have fallen on the extreme left of the spectrum. I carried my copy of No Logo and attended many WTO protests. As I've aged, run a business, and obsessively read economics over the past ten years I've become much more fiscally conservative, leaning libertarian. I am still on the far left socially.

Before Trump, I was somewhat likely to vote for a candidate from the right, and in fact did so once.

Trump has wholly and completely reversed this personal trend. The degree to which the American right is disingenuous about thier own politics, their level of racism and xenophobia and that fact that too much of the Canadian right supports them virtually gaurentees that I will never vote conservative in my lifetime.

I wonder if this is a trend of any kind?

Yea, I'm the same way. I voted for Bush in 2004 and I completely regret that. I know a lot of people that feel the same way. I'll never vote Republican again after what has occurred the past 10-15 years. Keith Law from ESPN often talks about it on Twitter. He refuses to vote Republican based on their inability to understand science even though he considers himself to be somewhat conservative.

03-19-2017 , 12:23 PM

#19616

microbet

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Comparing BLM to the KKK is typically heinous anti-American posting by kypreANUS. The KKK murdered thousands of our people.

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03-19-2017 , 12:23 PM

#19617

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Draining the swamp one corporate lobbyist at a time

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A former top lobbyist for Anthem will be the next head of the Justice Department’s antitrust division, according to two reports*citing officials familiar with the matter. Makan Delrahim served as one of the healthcare conglomerate’s top lobbyists working on antitrust issues as the company pushed the Justice Department to approve its controversial proposal to merge with Cigna.

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-cap...trust-division

03-19-2017 , 12:31 PM

#19618

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

I've said this before, but the Dems should start courting Trump on single payer. Before the campaign, he voiced support for single payer. Everyone being covered makes him a big hero like he wants, and he's pretty much the only way to get the GOP to play along. A Nixon going to China situation.

I have all the feels about this idea. It raises really interesting questions. I'd start a thread about it, but too lazy and too pussy.

03-19-2017 , 12:37 PM

#19619

microbet

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I doubt Trump will do this, but he could get single payer if he wanted. He'd get the Dems who actually want it (not nearly all of them, but enough) and the Replublicans who fall in line.

In the battle between Bannon's National Socialism and Mercer, Koch, Trump and his offspring actually paying tax money to support regular people, I think he'll keep the money.

Maybe he'll propose single payer with Mexico paying for it.

03-19-2017 , 12:43 PM

#19620

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Originally Posted by kypreanus

Oh yes I have attented university.

Oh Christ, another Euro Trump fan

03-19-2017 , 12:54 PM

#19621

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Yeah, this is all bs though and we've heard it before. Trump floats a supposedly progressive policy as something he's considering (anyone remember higher taxes on the rich early on in the campaign), but when push comes to shove only goes for the straight conservative agenda. Infrastructure is another example of this BS. He doesn't want infrastructure, he wants kickbacks to companies that *might* reinvest in infrastructure for profit that they can then turn around and charge the public to use, maybe.

03-19-2017 , 12:58 PM

#19622

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https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/sta...91008478416896

03-19-2017 , 01:02 PM

#19623

herbdizzle

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If Trump or his administration is prepared to make knowingly false claims of Obama wiretapping to Congress or federal investigative arms that is a violation of federal law as follows:

18 U.S. Code § 1001(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;

shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.

Here's your grounds for impeachment folks: Go get him.