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03-18-2017 , 10:34 PM

#19526

lew189

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Oh god another one has shown up.

Aren't you sick of the same 20 posters posting the same bull**** over and over again?

03-18-2017 , 10:34 PM

#19527

aoFrantic

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And you think the average person who comes from a family that can afford 5 figures a year are just morons? You don't have to be a genius to get an English degree, but the average student is smarter than the average person who doesn't go to university. Anyone who has spent time around normal teenagers recently knows this is common sense.

Lew, we would LOVE if you posted a thorough smack down of the aclu. Go ahead, we're waiting!

03-18-2017 , 10:36 PM

#19528

einbert

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Originally Posted by lew189

Aren't you sick of the same 20 posters posting the same bull**** over and over again?

Well, since you dropped in all you've basically done is scream "Fake news! Fake news!" like how a small child or 45* would respond to being told they have to eat their meat before they get any pudding.

03-18-2017 , 10:37 PM

#19529

Max Cut

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We need a thread for settling the debate on the relative "smartness" of college students. Park it right next to the "is programming art?" thread.

03-18-2017 , 10:37 PM

#19530

Jiggymike

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Why don't you just get to the good parts and tell us whether 1) we should try to make it so that more smart people are able to attend college (like lowering costs somehow) or 2) we should just shun universities for being liberal indoctrination think tanks? Will be easier if we skip the rest of the discussion.

03-18-2017 , 10:38 PM

#19531

RV Life

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I love when posters like Sushy see a post they don't like, think "Aha! This is a gotcha question! I'll show them!", then post "Citation please" only to have it backfire when 10 sources are given within 5 minutes. Then they slink off and reappear in 3-4 days to do it all over again.

03-18-2017 , 10:39 PM

#19532

lew189

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Originally Posted by microbet

There's nothing a Trumper could hate more than the ACLU.

Trumpers are unAmerican, uncivil, against liberties and against unions.

Lol. Yes, I'm sure all of that is right on...

03-18-2017 , 10:43 PM

#19533

RV Life

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Originally Posted by lew189

Lol. Yes, I'm sure all of that is right on...

You keep saying the ACLU is not reputable. Please show and explain why you think this.

03-18-2017 , 10:45 PM

#19534

aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by RV Life

You keep saying the ACLU is not reputable. Please show and explain why you think this.

You think he is capable of actual honest discussion? You're about to be disappointed! He will not address any problems with the ACLU link. This is a lock.

03-18-2017 , 10:45 PM

#19535

lew189

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Originally Posted by Jiggymike

1.) I think there are already plenty of mechanisms for smart people to find their way to college.
2.) I don't think I ever said anything about shunning universities for being liberal indoctrination think tanks. That was certainly not my experience and I don't think it is the case. That having been said, I think anyone would agree that 80%+ of educators, in general, are wildly liberal. That is for the same reason that coal miners are likely 80%+ wildly conservative, though...

03-18-2017 , 10:49 PM

#19536

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Originally Posted by lew189

Which do you think, on average (of course), are likely to be more independent in their thinking (meaning not as influenced by the people around them, without reason other than to fit in or whatever)?

03-18-2017 , 10:50 PM

#19537

aoFrantic

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It's absolutely great when they give it away within a half dozen of posts every single time.

03-18-2017 , 10:50 PM

#19538

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

You think he is capable of actual honest discussion? You're about to be disappointed! He will not address any problems with the ACLU link. This is a lock.

Oh yea, I know. It's almost like he's skipping over those posts and doesn't see them!

03-18-2017 , 10:51 PM

#19539

lew189

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

You think he is capable of actual honest discussion? You're about to be disappointed! He will not address any problems with the ACLU link. This is a lock.

I didn't read the link, so it's not fair to address it. As to the ACLU, in general, I'm not going to sit here and blast it, I just don't have a ton of respect for it as an unbiased source of info. I would lump it in with the NYT and WAPO, lol. Those entities aren't all "fake news" but they are clearly and demonstrably slanted and if you can't see that, I won't waste my time trying to prove it to you, because it wouldn't be possible.

03-18-2017 , 10:53 PM

#19540

lew189

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

It's absolutely great when they give it away within a half dozen of posts every single time.

Who is "they?" I am one person. A rock. An island.

03-18-2017 , 10:53 PM

#19541

amoeba

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This is not a criticism of any post and more of a criticism of general trends of public discourse.

I find that in general there is too much focus on intelligence when discussing education and not enough focus on discipline and practice.

03-18-2017 , 10:54 PM

#19542

aoFrantic

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Maybe you could read a source before discrediting it? That would be a novel idea that your fellow intellectuals at University probably would have thought to do!

Stone lock that he couldn't muster any refutation of the link and wouldn't try. Absolutely pathetic.

Lew, if the NYT, the organization that had five separate stories about EMAILZ on the front two pages the Friday before the election is slanted for liberals, what is not slanted iyo?

03-18-2017 , 10:54 PM

#19543

lew189

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Originally Posted by Max Cut

Which do you think, on average (of course), are likely to be more independent in their thinking (meaning not as influenced by the people around them, without reason other than to fit in or whatever)?

I would say, on average, that would be the educator. What does that prove?

03-18-2017 , 10:55 PM

#19544

lew189

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Originally Posted by amoeba

Agreed. Well said.

03-18-2017 , 10:55 PM

#19545

Melkerson

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Originally Posted by lew189

OK, so ACLU, NYT and WAPO are all not credible in your view.

Can you list a few sources that you think are credible?

03-18-2017 , 10:57 PM

#19546

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lew189

Aren't you sick of the same 20 posters posting the same bull**** over and over again?

If a single one of you would come in and engage in intelligent debate I would be extatic. It has yet to occur.

03-18-2017 , 10:57 PM

#19547

aoFrantic

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Perhaps you could also show us proof of liberal bias in the NYT? I've showed you an example of non liberal bias already that has not aged well!

Why is it hard for you to read a source before deciding the credibility of the source?

03-18-2017 , 10:58 PM

#19548

lew189

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

"He?" I'm right here. I just told you I didn't read the link and I won't. There are plenty of important things to read, I apologize if I'm not going to read a link shared by Einbert, who I think should probably be institutionalize at this point. Guy hasn't been off 2+2 for more than 5 minutes since the election...