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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

03-18-2017 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by plexiq
I used to think so too. But it was a bit of a give-away when David tried to put a positive spin on someone drawing a swastika on his home shortly after the election. My best guess is that he supported Trump and is now in full-on denial about the consequences of that election. Maybe I'm completely off target though.
This is insane thinking. The positive spin is that these nitwit's action through pure luck resulted in Sue making some friends. I also wrote about it to goad them to return. And to make fun of them for thinking that Trump is an anti-semite.

It is true that I think that Trump is only about 40% as bad as some of you do. And that I have admonished those who have opposed him to stick to stuff that is clear cut (as opposed to things like his recent relaxation of auto emission standards) as that increases the chances of achieving their goals. ( Suzzer's recent list of broken promises is a good example.) But 40% is still pretty bad is it not?
03-18-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
While bolded is true, I've almost never seen someone who was good at math that was bad at reasoning/illogical.
Trump's financial backer, computer science Ph.D. Robert Mercer being illogical:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...ump-presidency
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During Bill Clinton’s Presidency, Patterson recalled, Mercer insisted at a staff luncheon that Clinton had participated in a secret drug-running scheme with the C.I.A. The plot supposedly operated out of an airport in Mena, Arkansas. “Bob told me he believed that the Clintons were involved in murders connected to it,” Patterson said. Two other sources told me that, in recent years, they had heard Mercer claim that the Clintons have had opponents murdered.
03-18-2017 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Wheatrich has fully come out of the closet it seems. He tried to pretend for a while but it must have been galling to pretend to care about what happens to other humans.
Force what you want on people that don't want it isn't caring about people.
03-18-2017 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
have you ever considered taking a few math courses at UNLV or something? you'd probably get a huge kick out of it.
As as university math professor, pretty sure DS would find a pretty massive brick wall at any more sophisticated math course. Being a self proclaimed expert at silly little probability and logic puzzles doesn't translate over all that well, and there is an attitdue and discipline factor too.
03-18-2017 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
The bad news with Trump dying right now


Mike Pence is #46
03-18-2017 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Force what you want on people that don't want it isn't caring about people.
This implies that people don't want health insurance, which implies that people don't want to be treated, they just want to die when they get sick. Lunacy.
03-18-2017 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
As as university math professor, pretty sure DS would find a pretty massive brick wall at any more sophisticated math course. Being a self proclaimed expert at silly little probability and logic puzzles doesn't translate over all that well, and there is an attitdue and discipline factor too.
Yeah, this would have been my guess as well. While, I suppose it's likely that he could be good at math, it doesn't sound like he actually is good at math. Pretty much all of his math-related posting is stuff that a smart 17 yo would know. And I'm not talking Terry Tao smart, I just mean like among the best math students at a large high school.

Those kids certainly have the potential to be good at math, but there is so much they don't know that I wouldn't consider them to be good at that point. I suppose that compared to the average American they're geniuses, but that's kind of a low bar. To most who post on here, it shouldn't be the least bit impressive.
03-18-2017 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
Meh sklansky is just a contrarian with a massive ego who seems more interested in making it known how smart he is compared to others rather than any topic actually being discussed, think your guys' reads are a little off here
An ounce of humility would make his posts a bit more readable and a bit less obnoxious.
03-18-2017 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Force what you want on people that don't want it isn't caring about people.
I have to go back to this because it's just so crazy. You think the 8-year old with cancer is being FORCED to undergo chemotherapy against her will? You think the 62-year old that is still working but can't afford to go to the doctor is being FORCED to accept subsidies that help him buy health insurance? This is just so stupid.
03-18-2017 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
This implies that people don't want health insurance, which implies that people don't want to be treated, they just want to die when they get sick. Lunacy.
people just want the FREEDOM to opt out of paying for it while they're healthy, and to opt in at a nice low price when they're sick.
03-18-2017 , 04:01 PM
Every Skalnsky post comes across as Dave either trying too hard to be deliberately contrarian or else trying to lecture to people. Honestly, if he just came in without the affectations and talked about politics in a sincere way it might be readable.

Also, I don't get why politics has to bear the brunt of all the "DUCY?" posts. Why not take it to SE or SMP or wherever.
03-18-2017 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
people just want the FREEDOM to opt out of paying for it while they're healthy, and to opt in at a nice low price when they're sick.
Sure, I can understand that desire. Unfortunately this plan doesn't do that at all! The 30% surcharge for people who lacked continuous coverage will make it very difficult for uninsured people to reenter the market, thus encouraging even more death spirals and higher premiums for all.
03-18-2017 , 04:02 PM
All this talk of logic etc - fair enough, but a lot of the genuine concern comes from people who specialise in analysing human behaviour and on the history of how democracy has broken down in the past. Plenty of these people (eg Brian Klaas) are more than a bit worried right now.
03-18-2017 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Sure, I can understand that desire. Unfortunately this plan doesn't do that at all! The 30% surcharge for people who lacked continuous coverage will make it very difficult for uninsured people to reenter the market, thus encouraging even more death spirals and higher premiums for all.
Of course. But that's Obama's fault!
03-18-2017 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
While bolded is true, I've almost never seen someone who was good at math that was bad at reasoning/illogical.
Logic is the epistemology of ACism.

You can be very logical and still arrive at some terrible results. Its the inability to accept this that is one of the flaws I often encounter in those very mathematically gifted.
03-18-2017 , 04:12 PM
on cnn today they showed a short interview with this average american lady working as a clerk at a gas station or smth, who voted for trump, and she said plainly the ideal situation would be that the government just covers all costs whenever anyone wants to go to their local doctor, and i totally 100% believed that that was her honest position on the matter. and then i thought about how, 100 years ago, people must have been frustrated with not being able to get the proper information out to voters, and how like, technologically they were limited in that ability, and they probably thought that if voters only had the technological ability to have access to information, they would be able to make correct decisions based on their wants and needs.

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03-18-2017 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Sure, I can understand that desire. Unfortunately this plan doesn't do that at all! The 30% surcharge for people who lacked continuous coverage will make it very difficult for uninsured people to reenter the market, thus encouraging even more death spirals and higher premiums for all.
A former state senator from NJ told me in addition to the 30% surcharge, if you drop coverage and start again, they can underwrite you, which means they can assign you to a higher risk pool since you are likely sick to begin with. So your new rate could be 2x to 5x+ higher!
03-18-2017 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by th14
Trump's financial backer, computer science Ph.D. Robert Mercer being illogical:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...ump-presidency
Would this fall under being illogical or having a severe cognitive bias? I think there are a lot of people with 140 IQs out there who believe dumb things because of some kind of cognitive bias.
03-18-2017 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
people just want the FREEDOM to opt out of paying for it while they're healthy, and to opt in at a nice low price when they're sick.
This actually results in costing you more money and in multiple different ways.
03-18-2017 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RedOak
A former state senator from NJ told me in addition to the 30% surcharge, if you drop coverage and start again, they can underwrite you, which means they can assign you to a higher risk pool since you are likely sick to begin with. So your new rate could be 2x to 5x+ higher!
That's huge if true. Can somebody confirm/deny this?
03-18-2017 , 04:52 PM
havent followed much of the news last few days ad went to check trump twitter.
I thought I was on a fake account cause it looked like a tabloid page full of fox news videos and memes.
well nope,thats the right account
03-18-2017 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
As a supposed intellectual, your support for him makes you deplorable like the rest of them. It also erases any good will and legacy you built in poker. You should be ashamed with yourself.

I stand by my position. He is going to e responsible for death of thousands. His death would be justice.
+inf this dude is a legitimate embarassment and contributes even less here than i do
03-18-2017 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
It really is disgusting. These are supposed to be people who live by math and logic and they support an anti-intellectual who stands against everything they stand for just because he might accidentally fall backwards into giving them a tax cut assuming he ever overcomes his gross incompetence and actually succeeds in one ****ing thing.
and again, this
03-18-2017 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Not what you said originally. Two of your cohorts have already disavowed your words. And the rest of your words are delusional. Among politicians I would think the best president would be Bloomberg. Followed by a healthy Bill Clinton. But I haven't studied the issues enough be sure.
and you're so smart that you totally realized one of the cohorts was playing tongue-in-cheek with his response, the other one actually preferred to invoke a different form of suffering upon him

is your bird doing the typing again?
03-18-2017 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
And that I have admonished those who have opposed him to stick to stuff that is clear cut (as opposed to things like his recent relaxation of auto emission standards) as that increases the chances of achieving their goals.
Republicans have proven this to be false.

      
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