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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

03-17-2017 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Dan with huffpo link.

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A decent general story is a decent story. It isn't exactly deep analysis.
03-17-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
Trump sending the Heritage Foundation and C-FAM to represent the USA#1 at UN Council on Womens Rights
Just spent a few mins looking at the two websites - it's all I can do not to vomit over my screen. Just the worst people. Just the worst religious freaking nutjob people.
03-17-2017 , 12:15 PM
Irish is the good kind of immigration

"Irish Heritage" is rapidly moving up the dogwhistle charts to take its place with "Andrew Jackson" and "Chicago".
03-17-2017 , 12:27 PM
Ike Perlmutter, the guy Trump mentions as an attendee of the important VA meeting, is a scummy dude known for draconian policies as head of Marvel, a real life Ebeneezer Scrooge. I'm sure he's just the right guy to make sure our veterans are treated with care.
03-17-2017 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DTD
Serious question - why is Trump stoking up things re NK? Is it just bluster to appeal to the war-monger part of his support base? Or is he being advised that NK don't have long range nukes yet (or launch bases close enough to US) so they can act now or risk being in range in 10 years or whatever?
The threat of war helps getting a budget raise for the military and if you have a big military and a need to win a election it helps to have well hated enemy you can start a war against.

Lets not pretend as if the USA going to war is a rare thing and don't let us fool ourselves by thinking a nationalistic authoritarian government doesn't increase the chance of a war.
03-17-2017 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert

https://twitter.com/chicagotribune/s...55683111391232
Well at least he really gave it a lot of effort before throwing in the towel
03-17-2017 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DTD
Just spent a few mins looking at the two websites - it's all I can do not to vomit over my screen. Just the worst people. Just the worst religious freaking nutjob people.
Heritage Foundation has been a/the leading GOP think tank for like 20 years or more

They're behind voter suppression and just every vile bigoted thing going in USA
03-17-2017 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
The status quo, with millions of people in death camps, should be a permanent situation.
Things can always get drastically worse.
03-17-2017 , 12:43 PM
“People are going to die. Someone will say ‘Oh that’s extremist,’ but how can you take this much money away from this group of people and not think people will die?” NEADA’s Wolfe said. “If you take away assistance from very poor families, some of them will have their heat shut off. Some will turn their heat down to unsafe levels. And some of them will die.”


Last edited by yeSpiff; 03-17-2017 at 12:44 PM. Reason: that's cold
03-17-2017 , 12:50 PM
Trump refused to shake Merkels hand at the photo op. She just have him shook. Or he hates women and doesn't believe they should be in charge of a country.

03-17-2017 , 12:52 PM
I think I read that Trump is a germanophobe.
03-17-2017 , 12:52 PM
omg what on earth just happened in that video? jesus ****ing christ
03-17-2017 , 12:52 PM
I don't see any compelling reason why the Leader of the Free World should lower herself and shake the hand of an incompetent fascist like Trump.
03-17-2017 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
His proposed cuts to education are the most horrifying thing I've seen so far. The nuke stuff, meh. Between us, japan, and china not being suicidal we have the capability to shoot down and thwart any potential attack on us. South korea though, I'd be ****ting my pants if I lived there.
Sorry but you are actually quite wrong about this. If they have actual ICBMs then nobody is shooting those suckers down.
03-17-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
It's probably negative. Pisses off Russia, Montenegro ain't gonna pay up, more stuff I'm not thinking of atm. This extra bases is ridic, we've already got the world covered pretty well.
I disagree with your take on this 100%. We do have a responsibility to the workday. The ones who don't agree with that are Steve Bannon disciples.

As for pissing off Russia lol who cares let's piss them off every chance we can. Right now they are in violation of a nuclear arms treaty.

Honestly if I wasn't more familiar with your posts I would think you were a pre election trump propagandist focused on nationalism at the cost of the world and being worried about upsetting Russia. Those were two standard planks of trump supporters during the election.

There is nothing that will bring an end to the US holding any significance faster than just shutting our eyes and putting on our xenophobic cloak AND ignoring the biggest threat to relative global peace and tranquility in Russia.
03-17-2017 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I think I read that Trump is a germanophobe.
Iseewhatyoudidthere/10

(He is a germaphobe, though)

EDIT: before he sends the damn Secret Service investigating my ass for spreading fake news, the clinical term is mysophobia.
03-17-2017 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
I don't see any compelling reason why the Leader of the Free World should lower herself and shake the hand of an incompetent fascist like Trump.
03-17-2017 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Including Montenegro in NATO protects it from fascist aggression - Russia. that's why NATO was established in the first place - to protect a bunch of small, democratic-minded countries from the Soviet Union. Stopping there spread of communism (then) and fascism (now) is a benefit to the U.S. If you're strictly looking for utility reasons - it creates and protects new trade partners.

But another reason to allow Montenegro into NATO in order to protect it from Russia is, that it's the right thing to do.

edit: I see you were being sarcastic....so never mind.
Me too lol
03-17-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
I disagree with your take on this 100%. We do have a responsibility to the workday. The ones who don't agree with that are Steve Bannon disciples.
It is important to remember that there is literally no coherent liberal/leftist philosophy in which America has no responsibility to the outside world. None. If you reject the notion that where you are born has some normative bearing on the life you should lead, you cannot wash your hands of the belief that people everywhere deserve some baseline living standards.

There is a good case to be made that our intervention so consistently fails that we should abstain, but that's not a moral case. This is why the Bannon isolationists are wrong about the world at a fundamental level: the categories they place human beings into are arbitrary and fictional.
03-17-2017 , 01:09 PM
Curious how this joint presser is going to go.
03-17-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNewT50
It's pretty nuanced and complex, but in general CAFE standards cause gas guzzling SUVs to be increased in price in order to subsidize fuel efficient cars and thus raise the average fuel economy. Since the US is the main market for gas guzzling SUVs and building them well is one of the main advantages of American automakers, they are more likely to be made in the US compared with more fuel efficient cars. So CAFE can have the effect of subsidizing imports and penalizing local production.
I want clarification on this because I believe states have some say in they can enact stricter regulations so California alone could essentually keep any changes from happening nationally. California sells so many cars that it simply would nit be effective to build to two different standards and also deal with illegal cars crossing state lines. California has been able to push a lot of environmental issues because of this and in manufacturing standards like cars can counteract federal regulation restrictions.

This doesn't work for everything but cars are certainly one where California basically calls the shots.
03-17-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Trump said: “As we stand together with our Irish friends, I’m reminded of that proverb – and this is a good one, this is one I like. I’ve heard it for many many years and I love it.

“Always remember to forget the friends that proved untrue, but never forget to remember those that have stuck by you.”

He added: “A lot of us know that, we know it well. It’s a great phrase.”
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We combed Yeats, Heaney, Kavanagh, Joyce. They google "famous Irish proverbs" and pick one from a Geocities page.
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So, long story short: the proverb isn’t a proverb, it’s a poem. It’s probably not Irish, given no one in Ireland seems to have heard of it, but we’re not sure where it came from.
lol
03-17-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
Trump refused to shake Merkels hand at the photo op. She just have him shook. Or he hates women and doesn't believe they should be in charge of a country.

Can't pull the hand jerk power move very well from a seated position.
03-17-2017 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
Curious how this joint presser is going to go.


Did you keep it? Let's make a deal !
03-17-2017 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yeSpiff
lol

https://twitter.com/AnasuyaIam/statu...63726800375808

      
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