White House giving the truthful reason why Trump made his incredible claim about Obama wire tapping Trump Tower -- he saw reports on dubious news-styled entertainment shows.

The responsible thing to do would not be to promote it like they are dr. Phil instead of an alleged news show. Then on the show she could have brought it up and discussed what it does and does not mean.

The backlash would be zero, she would get the credit for being the first to go to air with it but not in a media whore way.

This isn't a Maddow problem this is an all media problem. The game has changed and this is not jerry springer or the local news I-Team investigating black mold during sweeps.

I will likely never purposefully watch Maddow again, which is no big deal I didn't before. However with other credibility I had felt she was building up had I heard she got this and discussed it on her show with some integrity and no barking and countdown timers I probably would have had an even higher opinion of her. I probably wouldn't even be bitter about the first 17 minutes of the show which were a waste of time.

I just want those journalists who want to be identified as such to start acting like it. People defending the tweet just being a tweet are being disingeniius. Those tweets are designed to do EXACTLY what that one did and if they could trick people like that every day they would.

This is the most inane thing ever posted in this forum. It's exactly these lose lose situations where it's most important to find the least bad option.

But that might be one of the most disappointing things. She is one of the ones without a horrible talking head panel show, has some credibility and seemingly has some control over her show. It's not the end of the world but it was handled very poorly and clearly showed that journalism and news are always second class citizens to ratings.

Yeah, even if all the options are bad, when there is an incomprehensibly massive difference in magnitude, it's beyond hilarious to think it's meaningful that they're all bad.

Hes going to ****ing kill us all.

Nice knowing you everybody.

The whole thing with the tweet was very unfortunate, but Maddow is typically very solid. She can be VERY long-winded though and take forever to explain something that might seem trivial if you have been paying close attention. Following her on Twitter is actually my preferred way of keeping up with her ideas, I do watch VODs of the show sometime but almost never live.

NK seems to be especially unstable lately. Kim assasinating his half-brother a clear sign that he's afraid of his legitimacy being challenged, plus there are whispers that his generals don't respect him. China's increasingly fed up with their shenanigans. This is optimistic, but there could be a major shakeup during Trump's tenure.

It seems like such a horrible situation in general, with the trade-off between profit and journalistic quality.

So CNN reporting spicer and others apologizing to Great Britain for claiming they were behind the trump tower spying?

Remember when all the brits pollled and petitioned not to let trump visit but May said it was part of our long relationship and diplomacy.

I sure would think it would send a strong message to the whitehouse and the world if she changed her mind. I think the downside for the U.K. is pretty small at this point.

We are all slaves to advertisers.

Capitalism poisons everything around us.

Comey is publicly testifying Monday in front of the House Intel committee about Trump-Russia

Exactly. This pre-emptive strike talk being floated around is insanity that I'm sure South Korea doesn't appreciate.

the sheer incompetence is just staggering

No.10 stated that Spicer and national security adviser Lt-Gen McMaster both apologised to May. McMaster at least should have realised that the intelligence relationship with Britain is quite often important to US national security and has been ever since wartime when American codebreakers were sent to Bletchley Park. (The cover name for Bletchley Park was Government Communications Headquarters. It's now based in Cheltenham.)

They'll need a trading partner once continental Europe tells them to go pound Brexit sand

Serious question - why is Trump stoking up things re NK? Is it just bluster to appeal to the war-monger part of his support base? Or is he being advised that NK don't have long range nukes yet (or launch bases close enough to US) so they can act now or risk being in range in 10 years or whatever?

Also, if NK does have nukes then can someone please tell me that in no scenario would they waste them on the UK. Thanks!

But 4D chess! Clearly this was on purpose.

I get the feeling Trump would prefer a suitcase nuke to having to answer another question about wire tapps

Stop looking for rationality. IT IS NOT THERE!

Why is it optimistic to think that a shakeup in NK is likely? It's a much worse version of Syria with nuclear weapons. A shakeup is not going to end well.

Yeah. To think we'll be subjected to this for four years seems impossible. Of course wire-tapping doesn't mean wire-tapping when its "wire-tapping". How silly of us to think that it would. It's pathetic watching all these GOP people spinning like tops trying to justify the absurdity of it all.

He saw something on tv

How do we not all get this by now