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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

01-27-2017 , 02:38 PM
I heard on the radio that Trump has a new secure phone with a new phone #. I don't know which phone he uses, but apparently the new phone didn't have the Twitter app when he got it.

I also recall a minor fight Obama had with the Secret Service because he wanted to use his Blackberry, which was still a thing at the time. I believe that was resolved to everyones satisfaction.
01-27-2017 , 02:41 PM
Blackberry's encryption kept it relevant far longer than it should have been
01-27-2017 , 02:59 PM
I thought Blackberry was the only phone Obama was allowed to have?
01-27-2017 , 03:01 PM
Regarding the VoteStand thing posted earlier, NYT has this:

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On Friday morning, he looked to VoteStand, which calls itself “America’s first online fraud reporting app” for the smartphone but does not appear to actually exist beyond the Twitter account of its founder, Gregg Phillips.

The president seemed to be responding to an interview with Mr. Phillips on CNN Friday morning that was, shall we say, inconclusive. Mr. Phillips at once said 3 million illegal immigrants voted and said he is still working to prove that.
The article links to Snopes talking about VoteStand:

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“We scoured at least a dozen such articles for evidence to support the claim, but found none. All of them pointed back to the same source: a pair of tweets by someone named Gregg Phillips, whose Twitter profile identifies him as the founder of VoteStand (‘America’s first online fraud reporting app’).”
The president is the most gullible person on the planet WAAF.

Bonus from that article, regarding Philadelphia's murder rate increasing BIGLY:

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Mr. Trump traveled to the City of Brotherly Love on Thursday to decry Philadelphia’s rising murder rate — “I mean, just terribly increasing.”

But it isn’t.


Last year’s 277 homicides was down from 280 in 2015. That is up from 2014, when 248 were murdered, and in 2013, when 246 were killed. But recent years are markedly down from 2007 to 2012 when Philadelphia had more than 300 killings, 391 in 2007 alone.

“President Trump’s false statements today were an insult to the men and women of the Philadelphia police force — the very same men and women who are working long hours today to ensure his safety,” Mayor Jim Kenney said in a statement Thursday.

Of course, in the era of alternative facts, Mayor Kenney may be spitting in the wind.
01-27-2017 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
No sorry, this is just the "Hillary is dying of Syphilis" crap all over again. Let´s just not go down this path, please.
Just because the Hillary thing was B.S. doesn't mean speculation about Trump's cognitive state is also. He exhibits plenty of signs of a person who is not all there. Narcissistic personality disorder according to DSM-V criteria is almost certain, but cognitive issues related to mental illness or dementia are also quite possible considering his words and actions. He has a tendency to trail off mid-sentence as if he's forgotten the question, and stop making sense. Transcript from the ABC interview is exhibit A.
01-27-2017 , 03:15 PM
Could it be that we get sidetracked a lot? We already established that Trump is fool whose sources are other fools.

Shouldn't we talk about how ****ing racist it is, that he banned refugees just because they are Muslim? It´s a small step for Trump but a big step towards American fascism

Last edited by JacktheDumb; 01-27-2017 at 03:23 PM.
01-27-2017 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Just because the Hillary thing was B.S. doesn't mean speculation about Trump's cognitive state is also. He exhibits plenty of signs of a person who is not all there. Narcissistic personality disorder according to DSM-V criteria is almost certain, but cognitive issues related to mental illness or dementia are also quite possible considering his words and actions. He has a tendency to trail off mid-sentence as if he's forgotten the question, and stop making sense. Transcript from the ABC interview is exhibit A.
I think exhibit A is this sentence:
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"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."
01-27-2017 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
I think exhibit A is this sentence:
How has nobody in his years of dealing with people not stopped him during these insane ramblings and just said "What in the **** are you talking about. End a ****ing sentence, jfc."
01-27-2017 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Just because the Hillary thing was B.S. doesn't mean speculation about Trump's cognitive state is also. He exhibits plenty of signs of a person who is not all there. Narcissistic personality disorder according to DSM-V criteria is almost certain, but cognitive issues related to mental illness or dementia are also quite possible considering his words and actions. He has a tendency to trail off mid-sentence as if he's forgotten the question, and stop making sense. Transcript from the ABC interview is exhibit A.
How is Trump supporters saying that Clinton exhibits serious signs of brain damage any different than this? It´s ok because we aren't Trump supporters? Like i said, lets not go there.
01-27-2017 , 03:23 PM
Just watched the ABC interview

Good ****ing God!
01-27-2017 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by prana
what it the point of this post? I remember a lot of Obama commemorative coins coming out too.
01-27-2017 , 03:29 PM
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"Pres. Trump is playing around with everybody, throwing around smoke balls. It will not work ... He has now faced his first defeat, and he cannot digest a defeat. His ego doesn’t let him do that," former Mexican Pres. Fox, an ardent Trump opponent, tells Today Show.
So how long before we bomb Cancun?
01-27-2017 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
I think exhibit A is this sentence:
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes...my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago;....the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."

Awesome. His uncle called him over, put him up on his knee and explained that the nuclear was powerful in 1981 when little Donnie was 35 years old.
01-27-2017 , 03:31 PM
True I fell for that "the coin that makes racists want to burn a cross on your lawn!" sales pitch with the Obama coin.
01-27-2017 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes...my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago;....the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."

Awesome. His uncle called him over, put him up on his knee and explained that the nuclear was powerful in 1981 when little Donnie was 35 years old.
lol
01-27-2017 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
How is Trump supporters saying that Clinton exhibits serious signs of brain damage any different than this? It´s ok because we aren't Trump supporters? Like i said, lets not go there.
I would love to see the consistent evidence in her behavior and the way she talks that shows she has brain damage? We are literally seeing almost daily consistent examples of Trump's possible narcissistic personality disorder and general cognitive issues which come hand in hand with personality disorders. I seriously hope we are wrong (given the consequences of being right) but from what it appears we are very likely not.

Our society in general has a long way to go when it comes to education on mental health. I would love to see classes on mental health being a requirement in public schools as it is a topic everyone needs to be better educated about.
01-27-2017 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
True I fell for that "the coin that makes racists want to burn a cross on your lawn!" sales pitch with the Obama coin.
ROFL
01-27-2017 , 03:40 PM
I keep seeing ads for Chia versions of Trump, Obama, Hillary and Bernie.
01-27-2017 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
How is Trump supporters saying that Clinton exhibits serious signs of brain damage any different than this? It´s ok because we aren't Trump supporters? Like i said, lets not go there.
we should all know by now, Trump saying it about Hillary means it is probably true about Trump
01-27-2017 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
What you have to understand here is that Clinton had emails





https://www.lawfareblog.com/presiden...secure-android
So there's a decent chance that several foreign agencies have recordings of every conversation he has had in the past year or so? One time, dealer.
01-27-2017 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by eurodp
I would love to see the consistent evidence in her behavior and the way she talks that shows she has brain damage? We are literally seeing almost daily consistent examples of Trump's possible narcissistic personality disorder and general cognitive issues which come hand in hand with personality disorders. I seriously hope we are wrong (given the consequences of being right) but from what it appears we are very likely not.
Again, him being a narcissist also was established a long time ago. As was that a very high amount of politicians and CEO´s are sociopaths.

But people who are not physicians making medical diagnosis over the internet is as dumb as everything we blame on Trump supporters. Dont fight fire with fire. Be smart. You guys are a talking about random pictures some random gal posted on twitter claiming Trump photoshopped them, while the most likely it´s a random gal that photoshooped a picture.

MEANWHILE, the Trump administration is enacting fascist policy at a astonishing speed. The guy is in office since 5 days. Trump is the distraction that makes you look left while Bannon is slapping you from the right.
01-27-2017 , 04:02 PM
Trump such a good negotiator.

It appears that after a 1 hr phone call he has gone from Mexico will definitely pay for the wall to no longer being able to mention it publicly.

Bigly negotiation skills.
01-27-2017 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Based on this football players will live forever.
All other things being equal, rich people do live longer. This is why actuaries band pensioners by pension size when setting the life tables (or do something as a proxy for this, such as looking at ave salary when selecting a single life table). It's just a proxy of course - you'd like to know more about education, smoking habits etc, but when you just have salary or pension then this is factored in. On average, there is a good few years difference between the higher and lower bands.

I'd think that this is even more extreme in the US, without a National Health Service such as we have in the UK.

How boring was this post.
01-27-2017 , 04:08 PM
Former chief strategist for McCain-Palin

01-27-2017 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
Again, him being a narcissist also was established a long time ago. As was that a very high amount of politicians and CEO´s are sociopaths.

But people who are not physicians making medical diagnosis over the internet is as dumb as everything we blame on Trump supporters.

Dont fight fire with fire. Be smart. You guys are a talking about random pictures some random gal posted on twitter claiming Trump photoshopped them, while the most likely it´s a random gal that photoshooped a picture to get attention.

MEANWHILE, Trump is enacting fascist policy at a astonishing speed. The guy is in office since 5 days.
So you think that his mental health should not come into question even though he has a massive amount of power and is exhibiting signs of mental health issues? This isn't about some photoshopped photo lol. I think the people highlighting his possible mental health issues also care deeply about the policies Trump and the Republicans are pushing forth and are arguing on all fronts. I don't see how the two aren't intertwined. Take the voter fraud issue. You have Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham and others stating there is no evidence and yet Trump still pushes it and the reasons he pushes it are seriously out there.

      
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