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03-16-2017 , 02:07 PM

#18851

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

This is in reference to the court rejecting something andrew wanted to do similar to the muslim ban. He did it anyway. Huckabee thinks that was a good thing.

That was the trail of tears. Trail. Of. Tears.

Hucksbee is a deplorable scumbag without an ounce of empathy.

03-16-2017 , 02:25 PM

#18852

Namath12

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Hucksbee is a deplorable scumbag without an ounce of empathy.

He's a good Christian, a preacher man, a holy man some would say

03-16-2017 , 02:25 PM

#18853

Huehuecoyotl

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Trump’s budget doesn’t imitate the past; it simply looks backward to it in a way that postwar Americans never would. The government’s manly men — the ones with guns, mostly — get more cash. Programs aimed at effeminate or pointy-headed undertakings like educating children get cut. Not just in obvious places like the Department of Education, either. Little educational programs in departments from State to NASA are getting zapped. Job training is in line for cuts, along with K-12 schooling and college education for the disadvantaged.

Scientific research — whether at Energy, NOAA, the NIH, or anywhere else — is out. Trump’s America will give up on the dream of becoming a world leader in generating clean electricity or manufacturing the advanced batteries that store it. His statements on automobile fuel efficiency regulations make it clear that we won’t be operating on the cutting edge there, either.

Once the Environmental Protection Agency is gutted by cuts of over 25 percent, after all, we’ll all be able to get good-paying jobs in coal mines and won’t miss the skill- and technology-driven future Trump is destroying.

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The problem is nowhere on earth is prosperous today — not San Francisco, not Shanghai, not Switzerland, not Singapore, not anywhere — because it’s managed to retain the same jobs mix it had 40 years ago. There’s nothing wrong with nostalgia as an emotion, but it’s a terrible basis for a national economic strategy.

Trump’s core voters, at or near retirement age already, likely prefer a symbolic reaffirmation of their centrality to the American national narrative to a plausible vision of a prosperous future. And, of course, to Trump’s true institutional base — well-to-do businessmen — a national economic strategy of cutting back on the future is welcome. Trump wants to deregulate everything while slashing taxes on corporations and investors, privileging not just the sentiments of older people but the concrete material interests of old capital.

But for people hoping to get a good paying job not just next week but next year and next decade, doing so at the cost of any kind of investment in the future is going to be a disaster.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...ucation-health

03-16-2017 , 02:32 PM

#18854

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pvn

What makes you think that the red part of the state would just go along with whatever the blue part of the state wants? If you're going to have a discussion about secession, pretending like the current lines that are drawn around one political entity are flexible while the lines drawn at some other level of political entity are unambiguously permanent and cannot be questioned is pretty dumb.

Unless they white people in Red California want to pick their own strawberries - they will go along for the supply of cheap labor coming from Blue California.

03-16-2017 , 02:36 PM

#18855

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1

Except authoritarian rule is a norm in Russia, norms of democracy had not even really got started yet, + their institutions were either embryonic or in the toilet anyway.

So you're saying we're gonna be ok and not to worry too much about whatever Bannon is trying to do?

03-16-2017 , 02:46 PM

#18856

aoFrantic

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lol bannon

03-16-2017 , 02:50 PM

#18857

dinopoker

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

this is truly hitler-esque

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...g-bill-n733416

Nice to see eugenics making a comeback.

03-16-2017 , 02:51 PM

#18858

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

Hucksbee is a deplorable scumbag without an ounce of empathy.

he's such a piece of ****, literally everything i hate about christianity rolled up into one giant gaping *******

03-16-2017 , 02:55 PM

#18859

goofyballer

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

lol bannon

<snipped tweet>

The amazing thing about this is that if you read only this without knowing anything else about Bannon, you'd assume he was an Elizabeth Warren supporter.

03-16-2017 , 03:08 PM

#18860

dinopoker

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Yeah, if Trump and Bannon have their way lots more of the olds will lose their life savings like his father did. Way to learn from the past, guys!

03-16-2017 , 03:09 PM

#18861

Namath12

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"We can't ask coal miners and single moms to pay for PBS." --that scumbag running the OMB

$400k a day to house the Stepford Flotus at Trump Tower? nbd

03-16-2017 , 03:10 PM

#18862

+rep_lol

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if they actually learned from the past, they'd spend less time yearning for it

03-16-2017 , 03:12 PM

#18863

BroadwaySushy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

http://taskandpurpose.com/trump-advi...rators-report/

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

The incredible pull quote is this one:
http://forward.com/news/national/366...orka-as-sworn/

"Are you literally a Nazi" getting a "no comment" is, uh, well. Not great.

More fake news?

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/2277...-ties-unravels

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017...bastian-gorka/

03-16-2017 , 03:13 PM

#18864

Namath12

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Yes, Redstate is fake news, nice find Sucky

03-16-2017 , 03:14 PM

#18865

TheHip41

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just stop already

03-16-2017 , 03:14 PM

#18866

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

lol bannon

How dumb do you have to be to still be heavily invested in stocks in your 80s? That and the quote about Steve freaking out and selling stocks for a loss really backs up the whole "rich = smart" thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy

More fake news?

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/2277...-ties-unravels

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017...bastian-gorka/

Yes, those sites do look like they peddle fake news.

Last edited by otatop; 03-16-2017 at 03:15 PM. Reason: ****, Namath beat me to it

03-16-2017 , 03:25 PM

#18867

O.A.F.K.1.1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

So you're saying we're gonna be ok and not to worry too much about whatever Bannon is trying to do?

Not going to go with a position of relax its will be OK, just sayin that the comparison to Russia has its flaws due to the relative strength of cultures and institutions in those countries.

It does not make project Putinize Yanklandia impossible but certainly a lot harder and I would imagine the worst that can happen is some mutated franken version of Putinization where the absolute control he has is not present and the potential for recapture by legacy patriotic liberal forces is a lot higher.

03-16-2017 , 03:26 PM

#18868

SuperUberBob

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**** will somebody ban BS for good?

Posting fake news unironically should be permaban material.

03-16-2017 , 03:28 PM

#18869

einbert

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Right, there are definitely structural differences between the U.S. and Russia and big differences in our democratic norms and institutions. My main point is that people should be very observant and not wait until it's too late to fight back. This really has the potential to go very badly.

03-16-2017 , 03:29 PM

#18870

master3004

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This guy seems like an *******. Great question about what African Americans really have to lose here.

03-16-2017 , 03:30 PM

#18871

David Sklansky

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Quote:

Originally Posted by otatop

Hitler didn't just jump right into "Throw them in the ovens!" as soon as he took power, he slowly built toward that over years of smaller **** like deligitimizing the media and stripping minorities of rights.

It took about 6 years between passing the Nuremberg Laws and starting the mass extermination, let's maybe not wait that long to call Trump and his gang out on their steps toward whatever their end goal is.

Pete Rose never had even a one percent chance of breaking Dimaggio's hitting streak even though he got 80% of the way there. And no baseball fan felt they were in the same league.

03-16-2017 , 03:30 PM

#18872

master3004

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"We're about to gut a ton of money from infrastructure programs. This does not mean the president is abandoning his promise to put money into infrastructure programs"

Story checks out