Over sight committee tone gives me conspiratorial feels. Very anti wh imo live on CNN last 15 mins.

The $100 million house thing seems dumb. What exactly is the allegation? Shady Russian dudes have been laundering money via real estate for like 20 years. Why should I be concerned about Trump here?

There are plenty of legit scandals, focusing on this nothingburger is a waste of time.

Hey so that executive order about reorganizing the federal government is actually about requiring the head of every federal agency to come up with a plan to reorganize or eliminate every aspect of everything underneath them based on whether they feel it's redundant or if they feel it should be left to the states.

I'd agree it was a nothingburger if Trump and Rybolovlev hadn't been spotted at the same small airports multiple times during the campaign.

Awful lot of coincidences for a couple of guys who don't know each other.

He wants it to be called the "room of making America great" instead of the "room of tears".

Obviously the Russian oligarch lent Donald the use of his plane for the campaign. Melania sometimes wouldn't allow herself to be cooped up in a small space with Donnie and demanded her own ride.

If Trump helped a Russian oligarch launder money that's pretty big news imo

And at the very least, the notion that this was purchased as an "investment" property at a time when the FL real estate market was circling the drain comes nowhere near passing the sniff test

The Russian dude's spokesperson is a former writer from Breitbart.

The brilliant thing about CBP is that the DHS doesn't have to comment on or defend its actions in basically any situation, and you aren't allowed to use any recording devices or anything. So it's not even a "your word against theirs" situation; it's a "your word against nothing" situation. Every single time.

With that said, this does have a few fishy details, but honestly ranks quite low in terms of sinister behavior by CBP. Like a 2 out of 10. The only interesting angle is the fact that they supposedly interrogated her about her media work. They didn't even force her to give them her electronics for inspection.

Erstwhile Trumpbr0 Joe Scarborough lighting up twitter this morning



https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/841980908852854785

Cohen (Trump's lawyer who likes passport selfies) calls him out



https://twitter.com/MichaelCohen212/...09186309423105

Joe's having none of it



https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/842016804256010240



https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/842017530415837185



https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/842023656645644288

1. Dvaut was pretty spot on with his takes about Russia and messaging etc.

2. Lolmaddow build-up (and after the fact apologists on twitter) and lol the after the fact "welllll he must've leaked it himself" after it blew up. Incompetence all around.

I don't consider this unethical at all. What do mean by dubious? Give an example of what you consider a dubious but legal tax advantage he might have.

I don't think tax returns will tell you this actually. There are some very good reasons why financial accounting reports are generated by companies as far as sales and earnings. I don't think TRUMPs individual tax returns will yield very much about the nature of the revenue from his business.

Again I don't think you would find this information out from his 1040 filings if indeed it does exist.

Well then maybe that would be a good thing to focus on because I'm pretty sure that his indidual tax returns won't reveal that much about the income derived from his corporation. I think your fixation on his taxes is sheeple type behavior FWIW.

DVaut1 put it well. As POTUS running on his record is really the thing that matters. If he is perceived as a great businessman and a lousy POTUS that is far worse for his re-election chances than being a lousy businessman and a good POTUS. The TRUMP is over hyping his business acumen reason for not electing him is pretty much irrelevant now. I doubt if it was ever all that relevant.

Nonetheless I think his 1040 would interesting to see. Thanks for engaging.

Had a look at 2005 1040. It is a joint return and not sure what the schedule C income is from but it could be from Melania's business interests. I have no idea about line 21 and what went into that.

There's no chance that a complete disclosure of all of Trump's returns wouldn't at the very least be highly embarrassing. It's impossible that he would have withheld and lied about them over and over again if he could have just shown them with no cost.

There is nothing in his taxes that is ever going to make any difference, period. Dude can keep tweeting and putting out those executive orders from prison, no one cares. Dick pics are our only chance here.

Got himself unfollowed by drumpf twitter recently.

lol. this tread keep reminding me of the AbsolutePoker scandal treads

Question for those ripping Maddow, and I agree she could have done better, but I don't think it was as bad as some are saying. So, question:

You're a prominent liberal commentator and you are offered a leaked copy of Trump's 2005 1040 that doesn't show much. You suspect Trump's team leaked it to control the media narrative. How do you handle it?

Keep in mind if you pass on it, CNN will run a 48 hour countdown clock and Wolf Blitzer will sensationalize like crazy... or Fox will run it and say it proves we don't need to see any other returns and Trump is the greatest businessman ever.

Also keep in mind that you will get crossover viewers that will never watch you otherwise, and have no idea how deep the Russian connections go.

Do you possibly hype it, stuff it toward the back of the show and open by explaining the Russian stuff in depth to people who need to know?

I missed it live and only saw the 10 minute segment on the 1040, but by reading the thread that's what she did. Maybe not perfectly, but perhaps strategically it was a pretty smart move?

Say 'This isn't enough.' Make efforts to get more. Let somebody else eat that credibility bullet.

The bigger issue is: Don't say "We got it!" when you don't.

You have no idea what a dog whistle is, adios.

I don't think there's anyone in the Senate who hasn't shown enough spinelessness in their careers that a Snowden-type figure should feel nervous dealing with them.

For example, I believe Wyden himself, when questioning James Clapper in the infamous exchange where he lied, asked that question because he already knew what the correct answer was. Yet, this knowledge of illegal NSA spying did not lead him to tell the American public Clapper lied, or to do anything really, except say "I told you so!" when the Snowden leaks became public. And we're supposed to think anyone in the Senate is going to actually do ****?

The maddow hate is absolutely ******ed. When are we as libs going to learn to stop eating our own. She has a Good show that is mostly factual and not arguing talking heads. We should be embracing her instead of crying the news isnt as bad as we wanted. The left plus the media and everyone else who is a non ****** needs to focus on the enemy