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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

01-27-2017 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
It has not been stressed enough how much of a must-read this is:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trans...ry?id=45047602
DAVID MUIR: I wanna ask you about something you said this week right here at the White House. You brought in congressional leaders to the White House. You spoke at length about the presidential election with them -- telling them that you lost the popular vote because of millions of illegal votes, 3 to 5 million illegal votes. That would be the biggest electoral fraud in American history. Where is the evidence of that?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: So, let me tell you first of all, it was so misrepresented. That was supposed to be a confidential meeting. And you weren't supposed to go out and talk to the press as soon as you -- but the Democrats viewed it not as a confidential meeting.

DAVID MUIR: But you have tweeted ...

(OVERTALK)

DAVID MUIR: ... about the millions of illegals ...

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Sure. And I do -- and I'm very ...

(OVERTALK)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: ... and I mean it. But just so you -- it was supposed to be a confidential meeting. They turned it into not a con... Number two, the conversation lasted for about a minute. They made it -- somebody said it was, like, 25 percent of the ... It wasn't. It was hardly even discussed.

I said it. And I said it strongly because what's going on with voter fraud is horrible. That's number one. Number two, I would've won the popular vote if I was campaigning for the popular vote. I would've gone to California where I didn't go at all. I would've gone to New York where I didn't campaign at all.

What the ****
01-27-2017 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Interesting twitter thread I came across that discusses some of his more bizarre recent statements in terms of cognitive impairment:

https://mobile.twitter.com/alexandra...55209537110016
It's a long read (for Twitter) but very interesting, thanks for sharing. This particular Trump quote is something I somehow missed completely

and you'd think would have gotten more coverage.
01-27-2017 , 11:39 AM
This one is also just mind blowingly stupid

DAVID MUIR: You brought up Iraq and something you said that could affect American troops in recent days. You said, "We should've kept the oil but okay maybe we'll have another chance." What did you mean by that?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, we should've kept the oil when we got out. And, you know, it's very interesting, had we taken the oil, you wouldn't have ISIS because they fuel themselves with the oil. That's where they got the money. They got the money from leaving -- when we left, we left Iraq, which wasn't a government. It's not a government now.
01-27-2017 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
Have you travelled here from 12 months ago?
Adelson was literally at the inauguration on the dais. Don't worry about idiots.
01-27-2017 , 11:42 AM
wow was he? Didn't catch that
01-27-2017 , 11:46 AM
Trump has no idea what a trade deficit is.
01-27-2017 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Minirra
wow was he? Didn't catch that
Yeah, Adelson had a reserved seat in like the second row. You can't make up how dumb and uninformed trump supporters are.
01-27-2017 , 11:47 AM
He was the largest individual donor to the campaign at around $125 million and is actually way richer than even the highest possible amount Trump could ever imagine himself being. Most likely the last person in America that Trump would actually cross.
01-27-2017 , 11:49 AM
Way way way back in the primaries I posted some YouTubes of Trump from the 80's and 90's to show how he's gotten senile. He was always a conman with a bad nature, but any ability for self -reflection withered away before the secret Muslim birther crazy old man ravings.
01-27-2017 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Trump has no idea what a trade deficit is.
I think he thinks its debt or charity.
01-27-2017 , 11:52 AM
DAVID MUIR: Do you think that your words matter more now?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yes, very much.

DAVID MUIR: Do you think that that talking about millions of illegal votes is dangerous to this country without presenting the evidence?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, not at all.

(OVERTALK)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Not at all because many people feel the same way that I do. And ...

DAVID MUIR: You don't think it undermines your credibility if there’s no evidence?

(OVERTALK)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, not at all because they didn't come to me. Believe me. Those were Hillary votes. And if you look at it they all voted for Hillary. They all voted for Hillary. They didn't vote for me. I don't believe I got one. Okay, these are people that voted for Hillary Clinton. And if they didn't vote, it would've been different in the popular.

Now, you have to understand I -- I focused on those four or five states that I had to win. Maybe she didn't. She should've gone to Michigan. She thought she had it in the bag. She should've gone to Wisconsin, she thought she had it because you're talking about 38 years of, you know, Democrat wins. But they didn't. I went to Michigan, I went to Wisconsin. I went to Pennsylvania all the time. I went to all of the states that are -- Florida and North Carolina. That's all I focused on.

DAVID MUIR: Mr. President, it does strike me though that we're relitigating the presidential campaign, the election ...

(OVERTALK)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: No, no. We're looking at it for the next time. No, no, you have to understand, I had a tremendous victory, one of the great victories ever. In terms of counties I think the most ever or just about the most ever. When you look at a map it's all red. Red meaning us, Republicans.

One of the greatest victories ever.

WAAF
01-27-2017 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Minirra
wow was he? Didn't catch that
01-27-2017 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Trump has no idea what a trade deficit is.
I would snap bet my net worth he wouldn't be able to pass in introduction college exam on any of the following,

Globalization
Trade deficit
Trade war
Bilateral trade
Tariffs
The tpp
Nafta
Currency manipulation

Or any other aspects of global finance.


He has the two most dangerous personality traits, that when combined are toxic; he knows almost nothing but believes he knows almost everything.
01-27-2017 , 12:02 PM
What you have to understand here is that Clinton had emails

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Lost amid the swirling insanity of the Trump administration’s first week, are the reports of the President’s continued insistence on using his Android phone (a Galaxy S3 or perhaps S4). This is, to put it bluntly, asking for a disaster. President Trump's continued use of a dangerously insecure, out-of-date Android device should cause real panic. And in a normal White House, it would.
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So what can be done?

First, anyone around the President should presume they are being actively recorded by hostile powers, regardless of location, unless they are positive the phone is out of the room. One wonders how many secrets have already been lost through that abominable device as Trump and his team get up to speed on our most closely held national security matters.

Second, the NSA is going to need to compromise here. The campaign demonstrated that it will not be possible to pull the president away from his Twitter account and he will insist on a mobile device. Despite the dangerous security practice—and the substantively destabilizing effects of his tweets—if the President demands this then NSA will need to accommodate it.

The technical engineering will involve taking a locked-down Android phone and installing a customized Twitter client preconfigured for the President. It will need to tweet, but the web browser must be restricted so that Trump cannot click on links. If necessary the client should take any link that is "clicked" and instead redirect the request to a separate system which downloads the web page, renders it, and outputs it to a printer. Under no circumstances may the President's device be able to visit web pages.

Even this is insufficient. The President is an incredibly high-value target, so high that his personal device cannot be trusted to take input from even the restricted Internet of Twitter. The phone itself needs to know where it is and, when it enters a dangerous area, start emitting a warning noise. Otherwise, it will almost certainly wind up in the Situation Room, with potentially disastrous results.

Even with all that, the phone is still a massive ongoing national security threat. Someone needs to impress upon Trump that his insistence on disregarding basic security here imperils us all. Perhaps Fox and Friends would be willing to deliver the message?
https://www.lawfareblog.com/presiden...secure-android
01-27-2017 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by slidey1
[reference interview transcript]

What the ****
I watched it again this morning when I saw that poster posted it again. It's amazing that people can hold back an impulse to spit in his face.

Adelson looks like a ****ing ghost. Why can't he just die?
01-27-2017 , 12:02 PM
I know this is old news but I happened to re-watch the clip of Trump mocking the disabled reporter yesterday. Right before he does his impression, he says, "this poor guy - have you seen this guy? - "

And yet Trump supporters insist he was not mocking the reporter. All a liberal plot, of course. I think it demonstrates something about his supporters' willingness and desire to worship their fascist leader at all costs... even if they need to deny reality. That is why I would not bet against an 8-year Trump presidency, no matter how bats***t crazy he acts.
01-27-2017 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
What you have to understand here is that Clinton had emails





https://www.lawfareblog.com/presiden...secure-android
Isn't the security fix here just to remove the microphones and camera from the device? Rather than rewriting the twitter client to intercept all web links and render to a printer?
01-27-2017 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by slidey1
This one is also just mind blowingly stupid

DAVID MUIR: You brought up Iraq and something you said that could affect American troops in recent days. You said, "We should've kept the oil but okay maybe we'll have another chance." What did you mean by that?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, we should've kept the oil when we got out. And, you know, it's very interesting, had we taken the oil, you wouldn't have ISIS because they fuel themselves with the oil. That's where they got the money. They got the money from leaving -- when we left, we left Iraq, which wasn't a government. It's not a government now.
lol that is exactly how ISIS is getting money, well that and US 'allies' in the region.
01-27-2017 , 12:11 PM
the Mexican papers seem to think that 'influential' Senator Lindsay Graham will stop Trump from putting the 20 percent tariff on Mexico. LOL
01-27-2017 , 12:13 PM
Time to stock up on Corona and tequila. Gotta hand it to Trump, one week in and already starting a major diplomatic feud with a country we had no problem with.
01-27-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by slidey1
DAVID MUIR: I wanna ask you about something you said this week right here at the White House. You brought in congressional leaders to the White House. You spoke at length about the presidential election with them -- telling them that you lost the popular vote because of millions of illegal votes, 3 to 5 million illegal votes. That would be the biggest electoral fraud in American history. Where is the evidence of that?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: So, let me tell you first of all, it was so misrepresented. That was supposed to be a confidential meeting. And you weren't supposed to go out and talk to the press as soon as you -- but the Democrats viewed it not as a confidential meeting.

DAVID MUIR: But you have tweeted ...

(OVERTALK)

DAVID MUIR: ... about the millions of illegals ...

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Sure. And I do -- and I'm very ...

(OVERTALK)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: ... and I mean it. But just so you -- it was supposed to be a confidential meeting. They turned it into not a con... Number two, the conversation lasted for about a minute. They made it -- somebody said it was, like, 25 percent of the ... It wasn't. It was hardly even discussed.

I said it. And I said it strongly because what's going on with voter fraud is horrible. That's number one. Number two, I would've won the popular vote if I was campaigning for the popular vote. I would've gone to California where I didn't go at all. I would've gone to New York where I didn't campaign at all.

What the ****
He doesn't know what misrepresented means
01-27-2017 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by slidey1
This one is also just mind blowingly stupid

DAVID MUIR: You brought up Iraq and something you said that could affect American troops in recent days. You said, "We should've kept the oil but okay maybe we'll have another chance." What did you mean by that?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, we should've kept the oil when we got out. And, you know, it's very interesting, had we taken the oil, you wouldn't have ISIS because they fuel themselves with the oil. That's where they got the money. They got the money from leaving -- when we left, we left Iraq, which wasn't a government. It's not a government now.
Oil is fuel, right? That's why my limo driver says gas prices are so high. Cause of the oil.
01-27-2017 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Time to stock up on Corona and tequila. Gotta hand it to Trump, one week in and already starting a major diplomatic feud with a country we had no problem with.
One by one he wants to redo any and all trade deals with all countries and he has to win all of them. He does know he doesn't have the leverage over say canada that he does mexico at least.

Mexico is understandably still in a state of shock. They're in a ridic situation to be in, their USA neighbor basically went overnight from ally to enemy.

also Trump doesn't care that wrecking Mexico's economy isn't going to help illegal immigration from mexico. I think he actually does know but that's certainly debatable.
01-27-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WichitaDM
This whole Trump is unhinged thing going on in this thread reminds me a lot of the "Trump is going to pull out of the race by the end of the month" we saw each and every month of the campaign.

Obviously he is unhinged but he isn't any more so than he was in the campaign. He is basically doing and acting exactly the same way he has since he announced his campaign. The fact everyone is alarmed he didn't magically turn into a classy and intelligent guy shows just how jaded we are towards politicians and the honesty with which they campaign. Granted Trump is completely dishonest also but in a different way. He meant what he said in his campaign clearly but just surrounded it with lies that were tangent to the promises.
I think some felt the gravity of the job might hit him when he took over and he might strive to not be a fool all the time.

The mistake in this is thinking he was human.

I want to see trump's birth certificate.
01-27-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Oil is fuel, right? That's why my limo driver says gas prices are so high. Cause of the oil.
ISIS are robots that run on oil obviously. They fuel themselves up and go kill people.

      
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