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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

03-11-2017 , 03:56 PM
Can't believe Trump passed on an opportunity to use his signature "You're fired" line.
03-11-2017 , 04:00 PM
Because he's a pussy in real life.
03-11-2017 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
In the modest number of protests or meetings I've been to this year I've probably heard "Trump is the best organizer we've ever had" a dozen times.
That's what ISIS says too.
03-11-2017 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
What is the distinction between being asked to resign versus being fired?

Like, I understand the basic definitions of each but I don't get the charade of asking all these attorneys to resign instead of just firing them to begin with.
Ryan doesn't want them to be able to draw unemployment.
03-11-2017 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
The bank / trump email connection is most likely a bounced email that is just queued up on a server trying to resend at regular intervals. This stuff happens in the background all the time on servers and it's never noticed. The reason is because it doesn't cause any problems 99.9999% of the time other than writing to a random error log which might fill up.

As much as I'd love to see a connection, this doesn't feel like a smoking gun. The fact that the story is using generic terms means it's likely nothing.


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The question is why are the trump server and Russian bank server ever interacting which would be requisite to bounced emails. Random proximity is not an Internet thing. Two servers housed inches from each other could spend their entire lifetimes not communicating. So it takes more than just saying they were close together to explain why they ever communicated.
03-11-2017 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by prana
So someone broke into the white house last night?!
Googling this--he just scaled the fence, never got in. 2014 a guy actually got as far as the east room. Someone goes over the fence every year.

The only reason anyone should be upset about the firings is simply b/c the reason for it is because Hannity said it on TV. It's not standard but definitely not worth the outrage.
03-11-2017 , 04:35 PM
I like you dvauy but you are starting to write like Greenwald.
03-11-2017 , 04:52 PM
The guy at the WH said he was friend of Trump's. If he spends long enough in jail, he'll get a chance to meet a number of Trump's other friends, I expect.
03-11-2017 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by prana
So someone broke into the white house last night?!
yeah but it was the weekend, how could he have possibly known that anyone would be there.
03-11-2017 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
I like you dvauy but you are starting to write like Greenwald.
Maybe DVaut is a Kremlin asset like GG and Snowden
03-11-2017 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroPimpin
Ryan doesn't want them to be able to draw unemployment.
Assume you're not being serious here as ~0 of them would file for it even if fired.

I'm also interested in the initial question. Even if it's just an optics thing, why do they go along with the suggestion to resign? If their mindset is **** Trump why didn't they all just force Trump to fire them. There has to be something in it for them to resign instead.
03-11-2017 , 05:31 PM
Can you get unemployment benefits after losing an election if you didn't take the salary? Asking for a president.
03-11-2017 , 05:36 PM
Just lie about not taking the salary, or say you're required to take it but donated the full amount to the treasury. No one will know; it's not like they can see your tax statements.
03-11-2017 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert

https://twitter.com/NPRinskeep/statu...34265666015232
I talked to an Afghan Uber driver recently who immigrated here on a helped-Americans visa after waiting for like five years. He had some family back in Afghanistan who were marked for death by the Taliban and couldn't get out because of visa delays. It's easier, he said, for the women, because they can go around in burkas that limit their risk of being recognized and killed when they go out in public. So proud to be an American today.
03-11-2017 , 06:10 PM
humans = WOAT
03-11-2017 , 06:13 PM
lolhumans
03-11-2017 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark


Again, this will not sit well with 90%+ of attorneys in America.
this is the black friday guy... ha!
03-11-2017 , 07:25 PM
As sick as this Trumpkin policy and attitude about refugees would be if it were based on their cowardice and lack of empathy, it's doubly sick because it just makes the world a worse and more dangerous place. They don't care if they have a .002% vs. a .001% chance of being the victim of an attack. They don't want to see foreigners, as that alone bothers them.

Same thing with immigration and jobs. Immigrants can add to the economy or not. It doesn't matter. They don't want to see foreigners, hear foreign languages or see street signs that aren't in English.

And they'll be a little poorer or a little less safe if necessary to make those things happen.
03-11-2017 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
Assume you're not being serious here as ~0 of them would file for it even if fired.

I'm also interested in the initial question. Even if it's just an optics thing, why do they go along with the suggestion to resign? If their mindset is **** Trump why didn't they all just force Trump to fire them. There has to be something in it for them to resign instead.
Because people have short attention spans. No one is going to remember what happened in 6 months. It just looks better to say you quit rather than say you were fired.
03-11-2017 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 8=====D
this is the black friday guy... ha!
I think he has political aspirations, so he's making a big deal about this for attention.
03-11-2017 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
As sick as this Trumpkin policy and attitude about refugees would be if it were based on their cowardice and lack of empathy, it's doubly sick because it just makes the world a worse and more dangerous place. They don't care if they have a .002% vs. a .001% chance of being the victim of an attack. They don't want to see foreigners, as that alone bothers them.

Same thing with immigration and jobs. Immigrants can add to the economy or not. It doesn't matter. They don't want to see foreigners, hear foreign languages or see street signs that aren't in English.

And they'll be a little poorer or a little less safe if necessary to make those things happen.
Yea remember the outrage from the right about how Obama was creating race problems in this country? Funny how that doesn't come up anymore.
03-11-2017 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Because people have short attention spans. No one is going to remember what happened in 6 months. It just looks better to say you quit rather than say you were fired.
Eh. If your job is at one of the higher levels of government where bureaucracy blurs with politics or especially if you are a political appointee, no one is going to look at being fired by an incoming administration as black mark and anyone you interview with is going to understand.

I think it's part of a ethic of civil transfer of power or something like that. And asking for a resignation instead of firing is generally a thing in the government as a show that the discord isn't too deep.
03-11-2017 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Optics
Also, not that it matters, but technicallly they're eligible for unemployment if they're fired versus being asked to resign. Preset Bharara is a straight up boss though, he'll be back.
03-11-2017 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 8=====D
this is the black friday guy... ha!
I know that people don't like him because of the poker thing, but his firing is a huge loss to anyone who thinks corrupt politicians should be prosecuted.
03-11-2017 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Because people have short attention spans. No one is going to remember what happened in 6 months. It just looks better to say you quit rather than say you were fired.
If you are talking about Bharara, this comment is beyond ridiculous. US Attorney for the SDNY is a very high profile position. He could do interviews in the NY legal market for the next ten years, and not once would he ever be asked why he was "fired."

      
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