Republicans got super pissed that Bill Clinton got a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky in the Oval Office, but they don't mind Donald Trump getting an Oval Office hummer from Sean Hannity and broadcasting it on national television.

Plenty of people have been up in arms during the last two administrations, they were constantly ridiculed by RWers, just as they are now.

Without looking it up I'm aware the obesity part is correct and only losers die so trump won't.

A part of me just wishes I could go back to the pre-internet days so that I could pretend this many idiots didn't exist in the world. Too many people take their past choice for something and wrap it up in their massive egos. This makes it so that they can never say hmmm yea I disagree with this here as they can't handle the hit to their ego that maybe their choice wasn't as good as they think it was.

fwiw, I haven't gotten the downhill vibe yet. Those people always come up with weird stuff like this. He used peyton because he wants people to think he should be considered at least equivalent in popularity to a super bowl hero. If he was going downhill, my guess is he would've used a more historical reference.

yeah well said, I forgot where I read this but the ego just tries to protect itself by all means...

It's obviously about right. So since your intuition is wrong about this, can you admit that it increases the chances it is wrong about other things?

(Smart people's intuition would guess that since the life expectancy of 78 for men includes people who die before 70 and people who are at 70, skinny due to cancer, those not in those categories should make it to 84 or 85 on average.)

I don't have a cite handy, but my understanding is that if you've made it to 70 as a fatty, being a fatty isn't a high risk factor anymore.

So who is going to explain to Trump that import taxes are paid by the people who buy those goods. How many American jobs are gained by the Mexican tariff when we account for their retaliatory tariff.

I just stole this and tweeted it as my own.

I'm glad more people recognize he very likely has narcissistic personality disorder which is very difficult to treat as most of these types don't realize they have a problem. My father has NPD and when I was old enough I had to just remove him from my life as they are overwhelming and even as an adult it is difficult to have relationships with them(not to mention the abuse I got growing up and he still dgaf). Everything has to be on their terms and they are never wrong. Any criticism regardless of how logical and evidence based doesn't matter as they can't handle being criticized. They also have no sense of how their actions affect others and try to always blame someone else for the consequences of their own actions. http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2017/01...or-so-far.html

wait did you just call me not smart

also quick googling says fat people still die a decent amount more at an old age, but definitely less of a factor than earlier deaths, for reasons mentionned.

A better way to say this might be that dying in your 70's isn't very noteworthy.

Haven't retired presidents, on average beaten their actuarial tables? Just off the top of my head we have Jefferson, Adams, several other early presidents, as well as Hoover, Truman, Bush, Carter and others

Did not see Trump's ABC interview but just read the transcript. Jesus H. Christ, the guy is legitimately insane. Totally bat***t crazy. The sane Republicans like Paul Ryan etc. have GOT to already be working on plans on how to get him out, no?

I think they moved that doomsday clock at least 90 seconds too little.

Yeah, but a lot of people were late and this cut away too quickly. I'm pretty sure ALL of those white areas were completely covered with people eventually!

Unless you are immune to the stress by being completely involved in yourself. If you were president, would people have to try to convince you to stop watching so much TV, like they do Trump?

Yeah, I don't think this is new. He's not going downhill. He's always been down there. He's the poster child for affluenza.

Peyton Manning never talked at the CIA

They receive medical treatment the general populace aren't able to afford. Carter probably would be dead if he was Joe the Plumber.

Intuition tells me you would want to know this for all presidents, not just retired presidents. I'm like a smart person, so...

I'd assume, plus Presidents also don't come from a random pool, to some degree they're almost certainly healthier/more fit/active at the time elected than Joe Average 54-year-old (avg age at election, all-time).

My guess is your typical newly-elected President is in the averages top quintile health-wise relative others their age, and then tack on top .00001% ish health care.

Getting shot though...

What do you mean "again"?

I'll read the transcript.

OK, I read it. I get what you mean by his mind being gone, but I'm talking about a total breakdown, not really functioning anymore. Making **** up and chasing his tail seems like classic Trump, mostly.

I would imagine it's also likely harder for people to admit they made a mistake online when the comments are potentially visible to infinite amounts of people. This is a very vulnerable situation for a lot of people. People have a hard time admitting they were wrong to their close family/friends in person so expecting them to do it online is difficult even if you are directly showing them evidence they are wrong. It takes some work to get to the point where you think/feel that admitting fault isn't showing weakness but strength.

btw, I guess we can count it as a positive that when Trump discusses torture, he calls it "torture"? "Enhanced interrogation techniques" seems to have gone by the wayside. I'm sure all those people who argued that waterboarding is not torture will be along any second to display their principled opposition to REAL torture.

Is there a term for arguments that are just a facade? Like, when waterboarding was going on, all these people were loudly arguing that it was not torture and therefore OK. But the reality is, all those people were fine with torture. The argument was just designed to avoid having to discuss the issue.