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03-09-2017 , 07:06 PM

#17576

microbet

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Einbert,

Speaking of you and fascism, I just picked up an Umberto Eco book in your honor. It should be in the book review thread in a couple weeks.

03-09-2017 , 07:11 PM

#17577

einbert

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Oh that's awesome. Which one?

03-09-2017 , 07:17 PM

#17578

Sighsalot

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(CNN)Federal investigators and computer scientists continue to examine whether there was a computer server connection between the Trump Organization and a Russian bank, sources close to the investigation tell CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politi...ion/index.html

03-09-2017 , 07:23 PM

#17579

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Einbert,

Speaking of you and fascism, I just picked up an Umberto Eco book in your honor. It should be in the book review thread in a couple weeks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

Oh that's awesome. Which one?

I hope it was The Prague Cemetery. That one is highly relevant to our times.

03-09-2017 , 07:26 PM

#17580

RV Life

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Washington, Oregon, New York and Massachusetts joining Hawaii in blocking the Muslim Ban.

Trump meltdown incoming.

03-09-2017 , 07:31 PM

#17581

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

I hope it was The Prague Cemetery. That one is highly relevant to our times.

It is.

03-09-2017 , 07:39 PM

#17582

zikzak

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Probably my 2nd favorite Eco novel.

03-09-2017 , 07:49 PM

#17583

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

Probably my 2nd favorite Eco novel.

First being Foucault's Pendulum?

03-09-2017 , 07:52 PM

#17584

2OutsNoProb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

Washington, Oregon, New York and Massachusetts joining Hawaii in blocking the Muslim Ban.

Trump meltdown incoming.

Deep Blue keeping it real.

Meanwhile, hellholes like Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Nebraska, etc, which have no Muslims whatsoever and are steeped in problems all of their own doing, are thrilled to death about such bans and think they're the solution to their issues.

03-09-2017 , 07:53 PM

#17585

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

First being Foucault's Pendulum?

Gotta go with The Name of the Rose for #1 just based on entertainment value and readability. Foucault's Pendulum is 3rd. I read that in my early 20's and it was a tough slog. I felt smarter at the end, but exhausted.

03-09-2017 , 08:11 PM

#17586

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

Yea, I'm starting to think the only feasible solution is for Muslims/Minorities to tell the red states to **** off and go move to the blue states. Let the red states get hurt in the wallet.

03-09-2017 , 08:33 PM

#17587

stinkubus

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The fact that the Ds coalition is concentrated in too few states is a huge impediment to implementing their agenda. Encouraging people to flee the red states will only increase their political power at the federal level, if for no other reason than they still get two senators.

03-09-2017 , 08:39 PM

#17588

fatkid

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Bombshell news that's not a bombshell because nothings shocking:

The longtime Trump confidante allegedly exchanged Twitter DMs with the hackers.

03-09-2017 , 09:16 PM

#17589

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkubus

Yea, good point. Just pisses me off this **** is happening.

03-09-2017 , 09:37 PM

#17590

m_reed05

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Anybody with technical knowledge have theories on this Trump Russia computer connection? Listening to 'experts' on CNN, nothing really makes sense.

03-09-2017 , 10:08 PM

#17591

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigoldnit

Between August 2016 and November 2016, Flynn received over $500,000 for consulting / lobbying work on behalf of a Turkish client. He apparently now believes that his work meant that he was actually lobbying on behalf of a foreign government, something he did not disclose during the campaign.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...urkey-lobbying

twitter.com/yashar/status/839976866312257536

03-09-2017 , 10:18 PM

#17592

RV Life

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Yea every time I see Shep I get the feeling he just wants to scream "WTF is wrong with you people believing the crap out of Trump's mouth!"

Dude does not belong on FOX.

03-09-2017 , 10:21 PM

#17593

Huehuecoyotl

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Can't wait until Shep's co-anchor is Alex Jones

03-09-2017 , 10:41 PM

#17594

einbert

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkubus

Correct. Possible problem: People are doing so anyway, even before Trump.

03-09-2017 , 10:53 PM

#17595

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

You guys want to talk about Whataboutism? I emailed Little Marco Rubio about a month ago. I don't remember what this particular email was about because I've emailed him probably 10 times. I'm guessing I complained about someone he confirmed in Trump's cabinet. Anyway, he basically whines that Obama did the same thing.

Dear Mr. Williams,

Thank you for taking the time to express your thoughts regarding President Donald Trump’s appointments. Understanding your views helps me better represent Florida in the United States Senate, and I appreciate the opportunity to respond.

Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution states the president “shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States[.]” Like President Obama and other U.S. presidents, President Trump will carry out this responsibility throughout his time in office. He will fill thousands of positions in the federal government, and some of these nominations will require confirmation by the Senate.

In November 2013, Democrats controlled the Senate, and they chose to change the Senate’s longstanding rules so that they could confirm most of President Obama’s nominees with only 51 votes. Before Democrats changed the rules, 60 votes were required to confirm a presidential nominee. Now, President Trump’s nominees must meet a lower threshold for confirmation, just as President Obama’s nominees have since Democrats changed the rules in November 2013.

I take the Senate’s “advice and consent” duty very seriously, and I will ask serious questions of President Trump’s nominees no matter who they are. I also believe it is important for nominees to demonstrate a servant’s heart and a willingness to put the Constitution, the rule of law and the American people’s best interests before his or her own personal preferences. The American people should have confidence in those who are appointed to govern, and you can rest assured that my staff and I will thoroughly vet each nominee the Senate considers.

It is an honor and a privilege to serve you as your United States Senator. I will keep your thoughts in mind as I consider these issues and continue working to ensure America remains a safe and prosperous nation.

Sincerely,

Marco Rubio
United States Senator

Would it be uncouth to reply "**** you, you tiny nugget of ****"?

03-09-2017 , 10:53 PM

#17596

stinkubus

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Urbanization is a natural consequence of our shift from a manufacturing to service economy. I'm fearful this trend will only continue to lead to heartbreaking Presidential losses like 2000 and 2016. It's far to easy to suppress the Dem vote by simply limiting the number of polling stations in the right zip codes.

From 1776-1996 three men managed to win the Presidency without winning the popular vote. It's now happened twice in the last four cycles and I won't be shocked if it happens again in 2020.

03-09-2017 , 11:13 PM

#17597

uDevil

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

Bombshell news that's not a bombshell because nothings shocking:

The longtime Trump confidante allegedly exchanged Twitter DMs with the hackers.

Hardly anyone has batted an eye about that specific detail yet. Read the (long) article at smokinggun to catch up on Stone's doings. Of all the freaks involved with Trump, he might not be the biggest, but he' in the running.

http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/i...uccifer-913684

03-09-2017 , 11:39 PM

#17598

8=====D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

Anybody with technical knowledge have theories on this Trump Russia computer connection? Listening to 'experts' on CNN, nothing really makes sense.

If the computer was hacked and it was sending data back to the hacker they'd probably have it send the data first to some botnet computer and then through tor to hide their tracks. So it was unlikely that.

If someone was doing communicating with russians doing something shady they'd probably be using tor also, so probably not that either.

So it was probably innocent stuff like a russian advertisement embedded on a porn or torrent site, maybe worst case a non state backed hacker who didn't care about covering his tracks.