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03-07-2017 , 03:36 PM
Why has trump started tagging foxandfriends in his tweets?
03-07-2017 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
All we need to know now is how the CIA managed to fake all those meetings between Trump's people and Russian intel/diplomatic officials and then convince Trump's people to admit to them after previously denying them and we'll have this caper cracked!
Ingenious! Excellent Smithers!
03-07-2017 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by yeSpiff
the president, when he was making those statements, was referring to the physical country of russia, as viewed on a map or globe. he obviously did not mean for his statements to include individuals, or he would have named them.

hire me for next press secretary! i know you're reading this!
03-07-2017 , 03:48 PM


He has the best seat at the briefings. Who are the women on his right and left?
03-07-2017 , 03:52 PM
Rare photo of Wikileaks staff:

03-07-2017 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
the president, when he was making those statements, was referring to the physical country of russia, as viewed on a map or globe. he obviously did not mean for his statements to include individuals, or he would have named them.

hire me for next press secretary! i know you're reading this!
bastion of liberal bias NEWSMAX is even reporting this

03-07-2017 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
Why has trump started tagging foxandfriends in his tweets?
It's either as attribution or a desperate ploy to get them to read his Tweets on air.
03-07-2017 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
bastion of liberal bias NEWSMAX is even reporting this

Lol for you people think this Russian stuff is a big deal.
03-07-2017 , 04:22 PM
So everybody but pence has either met with russians/**** load of shadiness with russian banks or russian business.

Nothing at all wrong with that though I'm sure, who hasn't done that in america, I mean other than almost everyone.

Not that much will come out of it, tho maybe someone with flynn goes down. That's probably best case scenario, maybe they also get sessions, still a win but not a great one given all the other **** they'll skate by with anyway.
03-07-2017 , 04:24 PM
Best Trump response? How about "I met the ambassador in my capacity as a corrupt businessman, nothing to do with the election."
03-07-2017 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DeroDeniro


He has the best seat at the briefings. Who are the women on his right and left?
The one on the right (his left) is Hallie Jackson from NBC/MSNBC. Not sure about the other one.
03-07-2017 , 04:41 PM
If Drumpf thinks "radical islamic terrorism" is such an imminent threat why is he still proceeding with not one but two resort projects in the United Arab United Emirates?
03-07-2017 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
Unlike your example he did answer the question if you put it into proper context.

Franken asked about " a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government" if true what are you going to do about it?

Sessions answer basically denied knowledge of the premise of the question ie "I am not aware of any of those activities", Then talked about whether he fits into the context of the question ie some called me a surrogate, then denied himself having such contacts. Then ended the answer with I am not going to comment on what I am going to do about future cases.

But your right for the Left's version to hold up his comments had to be totally unrelated to the answer given.
No, Sessions did not answer the question. He comments on some of the surrounding context, as you note, but never answers the actual question. Franken's question was "If there is any evidence that X...what will you do?"

Sessions says "I'm not aware of X." Okay, thats fine, but that doesn't answer the question of what will you do.

Then he says "I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I didn't have — did not have communications with the Russians." Okay, that is a false statement he made under oath, and still does not answer the question of what will you do.

Then he says "I'm unable to comment on it." This obviously still does not answer the question.

In summary, he says he's unaware and unable to comment on the surrounding context (which Franken already said he doesn't expect), but never answers the question at all, of what will you do. Instead, he inserts an unprompted statement in the middle of his response, which is a false statement under oath.
03-07-2017 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
The thing is though, he DID meet them as a member of Trump's team.

So even that excuse is a lie
Yes, this is correct. I was just addressing the excuse of "context" and "capacity," which does not hold up. But even if it did, it does not apply to all of the meetings anyway.

Sessions used campaign funds for travel expenses to Cleveland where he spoke about Trump's campaign at the event. That is not in his capacity as Senator of the Armed Services Committee.

So you are right, even the excuse he uses and Trump supporters resort to is a false statement that does not hold up.

And furthermore, as noted previously itt, he or his office later admit that he talked with Kislyak about the campaign, sanctions, and Ukraine, which Trump and team weakened their support of, to the benefit of Russia.
03-07-2017 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
In the 80's it was totally standard for conservatives to be mad if a black or Hispanic person had a VCR.
The 80's you say?

Aug 2012, 99.6% of poor families in America have a refridgerator!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al5E3KbIfeo

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Oct. 2013, Do these folks with cable TV really need welfare?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvYO2r-nOLc

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Sept. 2014, O'Reilly: "All The Things That Poor People Have" Proves America Doesn't "Really Have Any Destitution Anymore"

http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/0...have-pr/200835

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etc. etc. The government should only spend money on poor people if they own absolutely nothing and are living in a cardboard box, costs too much.

Ofc, this doesn't even include the outrage over people buying anything more than oatmeal with their food stamps... like when they found a surfer guy in San Diego a couple of years ago who was buying what he wanted with his food stamps and made a big thing about that.
03-07-2017 , 05:20 PM


Did anyone happen to hear his response to this?
03-07-2017 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
The 80's you say?

Aug 2012, 99.6% of poor families in America have a refridgerator!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al5E3KbIfeo
The Heritage Foundation's dude in this video is the architect of Bill Clinton's Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996.
03-07-2017 , 05:45 PM


https://twitter.com/Isikoff/status/839226295821156354

Stop taking him literally, dummies
03-07-2017 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
Ofc, this doesn't even include the outrage over people buying anything more than oatmeal with their food stamps... like when they found a surfer guy in San Diego a couple of years ago who was buying what he wanted with his food stamps and made a big thing about that.
Man, a guy can get hungry surfing all day.

Believe me.
03-07-2017 , 06:02 PM
It's like I try but I don't see anyway in which conservatives (at least in America) generally aren't despicable. They don't stand for anything except making sure that someone is worse off than them. This is why they can't be bothered to worry about the wealthy exploiting tax loopholes and taking money out of the economy to hide in offshore accounts - some poor guy MIGHT have a nicer TV or newer phone! Or ****, maybe someone tried to encourage a kid who tried hard and lost! The outrage isn't that participation trophies exist; it's that they didn't get one.
03-07-2017 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
I do agree in practice, but why can't they go and visit them instead (since they can come back just fine now)? Look, we can do this all day. I can go into whataboutism and ask you why that people who want to kill us should have a right to just come over and do that, it's not a hill politically you want to stand on--nobody's gonna support you if an attack happens.

The new EO appears to have eliminated most of the initial problems as seen here by everyone's favorite fox news.


You're gonna have to make a concession somewhere and this one has too much downside to fight now and it's not that far off obama's that none of you gave a **** about. Before I get yelled at--I don't like it either but it's not a battle that can be won politically with americans right now.
Except this is what they wanted to pass from the beginning.

The first attempt was to be so egregious that something less egregious (though egregious nonetheless) would appear good by comparison.
03-07-2017 , 06:08 PM
Border adjustment tax is almost officially dead. Another broken promise on the way...

03-07-2017 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
It's like I try but I don't see anyway in which conservatives (at least in America) generally aren't despicable. They don't stand for anything except making sure that someone is worse off than them. This is why they can't be bothered to worry about the wealthy exploiting tax loopholes and taking money out of the economy to hide in offshore accounts - some poor guy MIGHT have a nicer TV or newer phone! Or ****, maybe someone tried to encourage a kid who tried hard and lost! The outrage isn't that participation trophies exist; it's that they didn't get one.
Yeah, I'm really pissed that I didn't get one.

It's not fair.
03-07-2017 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
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The point remains that, I believe, it is illegal to prevent a U.S. citizen from reentering the country, which is what's in question here.
That is correct.

They can, however, arrest you upon arrival if you committed a crime to warrant an arrest. You have a right to enter but not necessarily enter as a free person.
03-07-2017 , 06:24 PM
good article, main one on yahoo...

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/t...183829889.html

      
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