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Originally Posted by surfinillini
Agreed. That was a great post!
I guess it can be summed up as "Trump is the symptom, he is not the cause. We need medicine to get rid of the symptom, but we need a vaccine to get rid of the cause".
Personally, I don't think a vaccine is possible. It seems that the same people who vote for Trump, and there are plenty of them, are the people who have no capacity for logic or reason, and just want to subscribe to some partisan narrative. The same traits are present in the left, of course, but no nowhere near the same degree.
It seems to me that there is no reasoning with a significant percentage of the population, and now that those people have won, they have taken that to mean that they are right.
Personally, I'm probably "liberal" (in the American sense), in that I don't want to stop women getting abortions and I don't think everyone should be able to buy guns.
There is one thing I find puzzling, that nobody has mentioned here. Everyone is talking about logic, rationality, facts etc. Why has nobody mentioned that it's impossible for a candidate of either party to get elected if they're openly atheist? I don't doubt that plenty of your elected officials are atheists, but it seems that nobody is ever going to get elected to any post anywhere if they don't mention god now and then. It seems to me that the sort of beliefs that drive religion are similar sort of beliefs to those that might drive someone to vote Trump - lack of respect for truth, empirical evidence, the feeling that the more one has faith in the face of uncertainty, the more righteous one is, etc.
Why has nobody mentioned the link between religiosity and Trump voting in what is now 17k posts?