He has been 100% on the wrong side of the Russia thing from the beginning and he keeps martingaling each time something happens. I don't really care what else he says or does he has been an extreme and aggressive failure on Russia.

It should worry congress that his agenda has nothing to do with governing policy.

Pretty much this:

Your bat signal is someone criticizing torture.

Didn't that article use the incident as a launching pad to criticism patriotism generally and do alot of WhatAboutObamaism?

Greenwald's problem is that he thinks its enough to just say its obvious Trump is terrible so I'm just going to just spend most of my time criticizing the center-left. Worse, he thinks taking the time to make the argument of how and why Trump is worse is just partisan hackery.

For example, he thinks its good enough to say OBVIOUSLY there should be an independent Congressional investigation into the Russia connections. Great its obvious to to you, but its not happening so the next step is what can you do to MAKE it happen. He just ignores that the next step to actually get an independent investigation is a POLITICAL one as Congress is made-up of POLITICIANS. Fine if you are TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL and don't want to be part of the POLITICAL PROCESS to get POLITICIANS to act but at least stop calling the people willing to do the work POLITICAL HACKS.

Again, what the anti-Trump forces need is solidarity.

it's a joke, son

The Russia hacking HRC's email is not the biggest problem with Trump. The worst thing about it was that it was one of many factors which put Trump over the edge of getting elected, but the best reason to exploit it is because it's the best chance of impeaching him at this point. Perhaps Greenwald's problem is that it's more important to be an activist now than a journalist, but perhaps it's ok that not all journalists are activists.

So, who is ready to do it all over again this week? 45 so far has consisted of:

Monday - fallout/buzz/eruptions from Sunday news regarding Trump tweetstorm/tantrum
Tuesday thru Thursday: sign as many executive orders as possible with no tangible result
Friday - Trump makes an appearance somewhere saying something, then flies to MaL
Saturday and Sunday - Trump tweets the most ******ed **** yet in his young presidency, heads everywhere asplode, the free world cringes even harder than it did the week before.

Did I miss anything?

I flat out disagree with torture. It's inhumane. If your job is to get a confession and you can't do it, get a new job.

It's the same w/ the death penalty. If murder is wrong, how is it legal to murder someone? That's not justice, it's revenge.

LOL ok nevermind. It's been a long weekend.

To be clear, the only confirmed hacking was the phishing of John Podesta's email and the DNC server, not HRC's email server.

Though many speculated that the HRC server was likely compromised at some point.

You're not a journalist and you don't have a lot of anti-Trump credibility.

Confirmed?

The Trump admin is in bed with the Putin and the Russian oligarchs in dozens of different ways. Very impeachable.

And since Trump is working on destroying:

the environment
civil rights
civil liberties
the economy
the government
the reputation of the United States
the goodwill of other nations
our goodness period

I think you would be an anti-Trump activist if those things were important to you.

Honestly I am not really sure what you are trying to say with the above post. My post didn't really have much meaning behind it besides clarifying that the HRC server wasn't what was 'hacked' in case you or others were under that impression, as it wasn't clear from the post I quoted.

Listened to the entire Fox News Sunday today (I should receive an award). Chris Wallace and co pretty much say we need to end the Russian hunt because it's been months and there is no evidence of collusion. MONTHS.

This is a Congressman, not just a random Deplorable:

https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/stat...56380176973825

Yeah Mr doo doo King being an unhinged loon is not even remotely surprising.

It's obvious now, carter page is someone's asset, and they tried to get him into trumps inner circle. It almost worked too. Credentials in economics are there, speeches at new economic school or wherever they train their cocorruptors, he can introduce trump to a lot of important Russians, serve as a courier when needed (remember trumps prefers that to email). But he's ultimately a nobody. Trump doesn't want him, and Russians may have left him out to dry as a liability. What a scared dummy.

Chris Wallace is kind of a hack, especially because he lets deplorable guests (at least roundtable guests like Laura Ingram (whose lifezette site is busto)) spin Trump's Brietbart version of reality, but he often confronts Trump slappies with hard facts and does reasonably well.

BTW, if Murdoch isn't tight with Trump, why is Ivanka the trustee of his kid's $300M trust? They may have some minor conflicts, but Murdoch is close with the Trump family.

I kind of agree. I think he has basically the same position that Chris Hedges has, namely that since the U.S. intelligence community hasn't released the data they have to support their assertions, they shouldn't be taken at face value.

I don't know if TYT as a whole is the same, but I know Jimmy Dore has the same position. But Dore is not a journalist, like Greenwald and Hedges.

That piece is not remotely an anti-Trump piece. In fact, the main thrust of the article is that Trump's use of the widow for propaganda is completely normal for US presidents.

This is standard for Greenwald, who invariably uses all events, no matter how horrifying, as an opportunity to get on his high horse about hypocrisy in America. Trump botches a raid in Yemen and kills an 8 year old girl? OBAMA DRONES BAD!. Trump bans Muslims? Just a continuation of American rhetoric in the War on Terror. Conservative fake news wrecking the very foundation of public discourse? LIBERALS DO IT TOOOOOO!

If you read nothing but Greenwald since November, you would think that the media were being hysterical about Russia, but you would also not even recognise that anything out of the ordinary was going on in the office of the POTUS, because Greenwald ties everything bad Trump does back to longstanding American policy. It is, of course, great to call out hypocrisy when it occurs. But when that's what you do EVERY ARTICLE, it becomes an exercise in obfuscation, both of morality and of causality. The fake news piece is a good example; why the **** is he writing an entire article about one isolated incident rather than engaging with the real world problem? Greenwald's fans appear to think this sort of attention-seeking contrarianism is the height of intellectual discourse.

Yes which reads incredibly similar to this (the main tactic of most TrumpBots on the forum these days):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

People like Dan will use whataboutism while pretending to be liberals in an effort to divide people and discredit the Democratic party generally. So be very very careful when people call themselves "liberals" on the internet these days. A lot of them are lying.

It's pretty bad dude. It's gonna end badly and not knowing how or when is pretty freaky. Go with God go with TRUMP.

This sounds about right. I like it.

So trump hasn't even considered finding a head for the CDC while a new strain of bird flu is causing problems in china. I'm sure we'll be fine if we just pray the flu away. Only has like a 40% mortality rate!