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03-05-2017 , 08:54 PM

#16651

PocketChads

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We've seen the FOX NEWS MIGHT BE TURNING several times before

Don't hold your breath

03-05-2017 , 09:01 PM

#16652

JoltinJake

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

From Sport's Night, Season 1 Episode 19 "Eli's Coming"

"Dan feels the momentum sliding downhill. “There’s a strangeness about this day,” he remarks pensively. “Eli’s coming.” To Dan, the Laura Nyro-penned, Three Dog Night-popularized song being referenced has always been about “something bad, a darkness” approaching (although the lyrics, as Casey points out, clearly refer to an “inveterate womanizer” on the make). And Dan is right; with its dramatic and elongated pronouncement before the rhythm kicks in, this is a song about evil portents."

Oh, sorry, I actually meant who is Elliott Lusztig, the guy on Twitter. Is he known, or just a rando? People are frequently posting his tweets.

03-05-2017 , 09:01 PM

#16653

einbert

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Former NSA and current national security columnist guy:

https://twitter.com/20committee/stat...14662949928961

03-05-2017 , 09:02 PM

#16654

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

I suspect the whole lot of them felt they were beyond suspicion and nobody would ever find out what they did. I think a big part of that insane hubris is a combination of no government experience and buying into all the right wing conspiracies where the top ranks of the US government has been involved in global conspiracies for hundreds of years.

Because they believed these conspiracies that nobody was ever caught being involved in they figured it must be easy peasy to get away with their own conspiracy.

Bingo. They are running the government like they run their businesses. They have operated their entire lives under the assumption that when anything shady is found out, that's what lawyers are for. They finding out the hard way it doesn't work this way in government.

03-05-2017 , 09:03 PM

#16655

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoltinJake

Oh, sorry, I actually meant who is Elliott Lusztig, the guy on Twitter. Is he known, or just a rando? People are frequently posting his tweets.

I just heard about it yesterday, but it seems to be the nom de guerre of some Harvard PoliSci PhD.

03-05-2017 , 09:05 PM

#16656

Namath12

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Our boay has a sad someone link him to awval's poasts

03-05-2017 , 09:06 PM

#16657

Wooders0n

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

Yeah I think several people here noted trump's Saturday morning tweets had the feeling of a desperate drowning man.

Seems optimistic to think so. They felt the same as every other tweetstorm of his of the past 2 years.

03-05-2017 , 09:07 PM

#16658

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

Trump did tweet something like "I bet a really good lawyer could find something on the wire tapping".

His MO is to steal a dollar from someone and have lawyers settle for paying 50 cents.

03-05-2017 , 09:08 PM

#16659

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relevant, as trump fired at obama for putin remarks.

people voted a guy who said this and thought it was a good thing he's pres.

03-05-2017 , 09:09 PM

#16660

Sighsalot

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Them writing "claiming without evidence" is important, they normally don't word it in a way that makes it obvious they are calling bs

03-05-2017 , 09:11 PM

#16661

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

relevant, as trump fired at obama for putin remarks.

people voted a guy who said this pres and thought it was a good thing.

LOL like WTF does that even mean?

03-05-2017 , 09:15 PM

#16662

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Heh.

Quote:

Tilting at windmills is an English idiom which means attacking imaginary enemies. The word "tilt", in this context, comes from jousting.

The phrase is sometimes used to describe confrontations where adversaries are incorrectly perceived, or courses of action that are based on misinterpreted or misapplied heroic, romantic, or idealistic justifications. It may also connote an importune, unfounded, and vain effort against adversaries real or imagined for a vain goal.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills

Quote:

Just then they came in sight of thirty or forty windmills that rise from that plain. And no sooner did Don Quixote see them that he said to his squire, "Fortune is guiding our affairs better than we ourselves could have wished. Do you see over yonder, friend Sancho, thirty or forty hulking giants? I intend to do battle with them and slay them. With their spoils we shall begin to be rich for this is a righteous war and the removal of so foul a brood from off the face of the earth is a service God will bless."

"What giants?" asked Sancho Panza.

"Those you see over there," replied his master, "with their long arms. Some of them have arms well nigh two leagues in length."
"Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not giants but windmills. Those things that seem to be their arms are sails which, when they are whirled around by the wind, turn the millstone."
— Part 1, Chapter VIII. Of the valourous Don Quixote's success in the dreadful and never before imagined Adventure of the Windmills, with other events worthy of happy record.

03-05-2017 , 09:16 PM

#16663

einbert

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I swear this entire event is a result of our collective cultural illiteracy and lack of curiosity. Pathetic (not you guys).

03-05-2017 , 09:20 PM

#16664

RV Life

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LOL. As if the Trump ****storm isn't enough.

03-05-2017 , 09:20 PM

#16665

3fiveofdiamonds

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

Heh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills

I think he is being literal

edit: got to protect his future oil company assets

03-05-2017 , 09:20 PM

#16666

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

I swear this entire event is a result of our collective cultural illiteracy and lack of curiosity. Pathetic (not you guys).

I'm with you. People simply don't care enough. People are caught up in their own lives to care about others and the entire grand scheme of things.

03-05-2017 , 09:23 PM

#16667

einbert

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 3fiveofdiamonds

I think he is being literal

edit: got to protect his future oil company assets

Right I'm just saying, by making an enemy out of windmills he's also tilting at windmills in the metaphorical sense. Kind of a double whammy there. Plus windmills are good anyway.

03-05-2017 , 09:23 PM

#16668

Adebisi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

I think it's more that the political/business elite are so lacking in self-awareness that they don't even realize they're criminals. They think the standard rules of never talk business on the phone and never put anything in writing aren't meant for them. They set up their mass surveillance system to use against their enemies without ever thinking that some of the thousands of drones that operate this system might turn it against them.

03-05-2017 , 09:26 PM

#16669

einbert

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https://twitter.com/SenBlumenthal/st...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

03-05-2017 , 09:43 PM

#16670

surfinillini

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Going dark on T***p and Twitter for the week. My head is ****ing spinning. Can't read anymore articles. I definitely got political fatigue going on.

03-05-2017 , 09:43 PM

#16671

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

LOL. As if the Trump ****storm isn't enough.

Not great timing with Trump clearly wanting/needing a war after his Apprentice ratings tweets didn't distract anyone enough.

03-05-2017 , 09:49 PM

#16672

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

He loses Fox News and he's done, not enough olds read breitbart to make up for it.

Nah, he went to war with Fox News last year. And Trump won. Murdoch was no fan of Trump's, but whenever Fox attacked Trump, ratings dropped and the right wing base attacked the channel, so eventually Murdoch went with "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em."

03-05-2017 , 09:49 PM

#16673

weeeez

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please tell me trump cant launch a nuke if he orders it.
there are safeguards right?

03-05-2017 , 09:49 PM

#16674

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03-05-2017 , 09:52 PM

#16675

wheatrich

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well is NK an enemy now from the trump perspective? I don't know, certainly nothing to offer trump but trump may not give a **** about them either. I assume they still hate us tho.

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