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03-04-2017 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
Here is a flow chart for this question:


Are they white ----> Yes ----> they can stay
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No ----> deport them
Typical racist you are. Most liberals are inherently racist.
03-04-2017 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
I did answer, no you don't get to come across the border and squat a kid out and call it a dreamer.

Criminal aliens need to be deported.

If the "dreamer" has a criminal record deport them.
That's not what a dreamer is for the second time. A dreamer is a kid who was brought here when they were young. They weren't born here.

You are mixing up DREAMers with anchor babies - which are protected by the constitution but i doubt you understand or care about that.

Just imagine what you want something to mean then argue about that = PURE LOGIC apparently.

So again - for the 3rd time. if a kid was brought here at age 7, is now 19, with no criminal record - should they be deported?

If/when you don't answer this we'll all know you're just trolling and not as dumb as you pretend to be.
03-04-2017 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
Deporting criminal illegals is logical.
This thinking is no different than that of the the Germans who stood by while the death trains got loaded.
03-04-2017 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
You literally don't underatand what logic is. Liberals freely admit that they want liberal immigration because of emotions and not logic. Emotions like empathy.
That isn't logic, that is SJW emotion. Open your home to some illegals?
03-04-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by florentinopeces
This thinking is no different than that of the the Germans who stood by while the death trains got loaded.
you know he's doing the JackNod.gif while reading this
03-04-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
Popular vote doesn't matter. Sorry but you should know that by now.
democrats are more popular. Because your side doesn't adhere to logic.

keep touting the ELectoral college man. Makes me think it will be abolished sooner if anything.
03-04-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by florentinopeces
This thinking is no different than that of the the Germans who stood by while the death trains got loaded.
This isn't Germany. We aren't shipping Mexicans to death camps idiot. We are sending back to the country they come from. HUGE difference but try again.
03-04-2017 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
democrats are more popular. Because your side doesn't adhere to logic.

keep touting the ELectoral college man. Makes me think it will be abolished sooner if anything.
It will never be abolished. NEVER.
03-04-2017 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
Typical racist you are. Most liberals are inherently racist.
Denouncing racism = racism.

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
03-04-2017 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
It will never be abolished. NEVER.
Why do you hate democracy?
03-04-2017 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
That's not what a dreamer is for the second time. A dreamer is a kid who was brought here when they were young. They weren't born here.

You are mixing up DREAMers with anchor babies - which are protected by the constitution but i doubt you understand or care about that.

Just imagine what you want something to mean then argue about that = PURE LOGIC apparently.

So again - for the 3rd time. if a kid was brought here at age 7, is now 19, with no criminal record - should they be deported?

If/when you don't answer this we'll all know you're just trolling and not as dumb as you pretend to be.
If they were not born here and they have a criminal background then deport them.
03-04-2017 , 02:53 PM
Can someone post those Karl Rove guide to trolling libtards on the internet? truefish is checking pretty much every box, albeit with abysmal execution.
03-04-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Why do you hate democracy?
We live in a constitutional republic. How do you not know that?
03-04-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
If they were not born here and they have a criminal background then deport them.
So no criminal background they can stay, correct?

Do you give them a path to citizenship or just let them continue to exist on the fringes of society?
03-04-2017 , 02:55 PM
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We live in a constitutional republic. How do you not know that?
Yeah and one person one vote is the basic premise of democracy. Why do you hate that?
03-04-2017 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
It will never be abolished. NEVER.
Want to a 20 year bet? $1000 plus escrow interest, payable if EC is abolished or 20 years pass, whichever is earlier.
03-04-2017 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
dehumanizing people by calling them "illegals" is pretty deplorable
So should we not call people who steal thieves? Or people who kill others murderers?

If you came over illegally then you are an illegal immigrant.

You are showing your ignorance every time you post.
03-04-2017 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
"What is weed, Alex?"

Correct. Libertarians want the 50s with weed.
Wat? Prob the least libertarian era. Super high taxes on the rich. Low immigration.

Fwiw, Gary Johnson may be a clown, but his principles are way more in line with liberals than Trump's or Pence's.
03-04-2017 , 02:56 PM
Here it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius...playbook_karl/

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Demean

Always refer to the other side as Liberals, Lefty Liberals, Libbies. Never assign them the status of a bona-fide political party. Hang Liberalism around their neck like a burning tire. Make Liberalism appear as a moral turpitude or a character flaw. They are NEVER, NEVER to be referred to as the Democratic Party. At best it is the democrat party. Never assign them respect.
Check!
03-04-2017 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
So should we not call people who steal thieves? Or people who kill others murderers?

If you came over illegally then you are an illegal immigrant.

You are showing your ignorance every time you post.
And people who were brought here as toddlers - are they criminals too? Kinda ****s with your black and white world doesn't it?
03-04-2017 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
So should we not call people who steal thieves? Or people who kill others murderers?

If you came over illegally then you are an illegal immigrant.

You are showing your ignorance every time you post.
Actually yes, e.g. referring to people on probation or early release as 'perpetrators' has been linked to higher recidivism rates.

I.e. You can lower crime rates by simply not referring to people as criminals at every opportunity, and they will commit less crimes. It's freaking astonishing.
03-04-2017 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
You Can’t Be Socially Progressive and Economically Conservative
https://medium.com/@MikeEpifani/you-...fad#.o54zd4zcw
This article is stupid. The world needs to invest massively into eliminating poverty by creating a stronger social system, but that doesn't mean that taxes should be at a ridiculous level. And the type of statements like "isn't 900k enough money???" is pure populism.

It is also very normal for people to say that the government should be focused on saving money. Anyone who has had professional experience with or in the public sector will confirm that most government institutions are way behind the curve. That doesn't mean the public sector shouldn't exist, but it needs to find a way to solve the issue that they never seem to evolve efficiently.
03-04-2017 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
We live in a constitutional republic. How do you not know that?
Oh snap, owned imo.
03-04-2017 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Rand Paul is not a libertarian, but every Gary Johnson voter is?

Johnson's voters were overwhelmingly moderate Republican protest votes, man, not budding ancaps. There's a reason his vote total spiked in an election between two deeply unlikeable candidates that many people thought was a lock for one of them, and it wasn't because of that kid with his "Read Ayn Rand" flag.
Whatever man, even you called yourself a libertarian once! Regardless of what they actually are, the point is that it's better to bring people like pvn over to your side instead of pushing them away.

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(that's because there are no such things as "staunch libertarians," which was the substance of literally ~every single debate about that ****. Libertarians are in like, three groups. 1. People who picked that label but are just like, in favor of general good government, i.e. Democrats 2. White supremacists 3. Literally half a dozen people who all work for think tanks who are sincere libertarians)
As you guys often like to point out, being a libertarian isn't philosophically complex or hard to understand. There are a lot of people who would fall under #1 or #3. Stop letting Republicans control the narrative and steal their votes!
03-04-2017 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
And people who were brought here as toddlers - are they criminals too? Kinda ****s with your black and white world doesn't it?
Of course we would not do anything to hurt a "toddler" why do liberals always go into kindergarten mode when it comes to debate.

      
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