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03-04-2017 , 02:09 PM

#16076

truefish

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 474

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

If you think you are debating with logic, you don't know what logic is.

Deporting criminal illegals is logical.

03-04-2017 , 02:09 PM

#16077

einbert

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 14,911

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Alex.

Sure, but there are actual libertarian people out there (5 million people voted for Gary Johnson), so I don't understand the constant desire to push them away instead of maybe making the tiniest effort to bring them into the fold.

Gary Johnson is a Republican who likes to smoke weed. Give me a break.

03-04-2017 , 02:10 PM

#16078

einbert

Carpal \'Tunnel

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https://twitter.com/thegarance/statu...50098675269632

03-04-2017 , 02:10 PM

#16079

mw828

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 29,324

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylar

You don't throw your best secret punch in red 1 bro. You gotta jab your opponent into exhaustion first.

Why would you do that if you have a 100% knockout punch? The only type of reasoning I can buy is that it is someone that wants to put the Republican party out of business by letting them hang themselves.

And/or want to let this controversy slow the terrible conservative agenda in congress so that nothing substantive gets done before 2020.

03-04-2017 , 02:10 PM

#16080

.Alex.

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,672

Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

My point is why would anyone respect a libertarian when they are for all of those things? That is about as anti-liberty as it gets.

Rand Paul is not a libertarian obv but you've allowed him to convince yourself and potential voters that he is without a fight.

03-04-2017 , 02:11 PM

#16081

truefish

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 474

Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Trump loves truefish. It's hard to compete with that.

Yea and you voted for the racist Hillary Clinton.

03-04-2017 , 02:11 PM

#16082

einbert

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Rand Paul and Gary Johnson are two sides of the same anti-progressive coin.

03-04-2017 , 02:11 PM

#16083

.Alex.

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,672

Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

Gary Johnson is a Republican who likes to smoke weed. Give me a break.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Gary...mmigration.htm

03-04-2017 , 02:14 PM

#16084

kerowo

lolcat

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 37,190

Quote:

Originally Posted by truefish

Yea and you voted for the racist Hillary Clinton.

LMAO

03-04-2017 , 02:14 PM

#16085

einbert

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 14,911

https://twitter.com/amarvarma/status/781660073986752516

https://twitter.com/amarvarma/status/781660017074249728

He's just a Republican that likes to smoke weed. What a joke.

03-04-2017 , 02:15 PM

#16086

truefish

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 474

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

LMAO

Democrats have been holding minorities down for half a century. If that's not racist then I don't know what is.

03-04-2017 , 02:15 PM

#16087

kerowo

lolcat

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 37,190

Quote:

Originally Posted by truefish

Democrats have been holding minorities down for half a century. If that's not racist then I don't know what is.

At least we let them vote. LOL

03-04-2017 , 02:16 PM

#16088

sylar

Ivan Drago's homeslice

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 20,307

Quote:

Originally Posted by mw828

No one has a 100% punch. 100% comes from preparation and execution.

03-04-2017 , 02:17 PM

#16089

einbert

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More problems with Gary Johnson (I'm actually okay with TPP):

Quote:

On the other hand, Johnson is a libertarian. Here's a smattering of what else he believes:

He supports TPP.
He supports fracking.
He opposes any federal policies that would make college more affordable or reduce student debt. In fact, he wants to abolish student loans entirely.
He thinks Citizens United is great.
He doesn't want to raise the minimum wage. At all.
He favors a balanced-budget amendment and has previously suggested that he would slash federal spending 43 percent in order to balance the budget. This would require massive cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and social welfare programs of all kinds.
He opposes net neutrality.
He wants to increase the Social Security retirement age to 75 and he's open to privatization.
He opposes any kind of national health care and wants to repeal Obamacare.
He opposes practically all forms of gun control.
He opposes any kind of paid maternity or medical leave.
He supported the Keystone XL pipeline.
He opposes any government action to address climate change.
He wants to cut the corporate tax rate to zero.
He appears to believe that we should reduce financial regulation. All we need to do is allow big banks to fail and everything will be OK.
He wants to remove the Fed's mandate to maximize employment and has spoken favorably of returning to the gold standard.
He wants to block-grant Medicare and turn it over to the states.
He wants to repeal the 16th Amendment and eliminate the income tax, the payroll tax, and the estate tax. He would replace it with a 28 percent FairTax that exempts the poor. This is equivalent to a 39 percent sales tax, and it would almost certainly represent a large tax cut for the rich.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...y-johnson-list

03-04-2017 , 02:17 PM

#16090

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by truefish

Deporting criminal illegals is logical.

Uh, this is not a logical statement.

03-04-2017 , 02:18 PM

#16091

truefish

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 474

https://youtu.be/xryXpK042pQ

Yea why do blacks consistently vote democrat? because it's easier to control them. That's racism.

03-04-2017 , 02:19 PM

#16092

truefish

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 474

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Uh, this is not a logical statement.

Oh so it's logical to let people break the law?

03-04-2017 , 02:22 PM

#16093

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by truefish

Oh so it's logical to let people break the law?

That, obviously, is not what I said. I said you don't know what logic is, and you have confirmed that for all to see. You seem to regard "logic" as gut feelings you agree with, and "emotion" as gut feelings you don't agree with.

03-04-2017 , 02:23 PM

#16094

kerowo

lolcat

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 37,190

Quote:

Originally Posted by truefish

https://youtu.be/xryXpK042pQ

Yea why do blacks consistently vote democrat? because it's easier to control them. That's racism.

LOL

03-04-2017 , 02:24 PM

#16095

weeeez

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,778

Quote:

Originally Posted by truefish

https://youtu.be/xryXpK042pQ

Yea why do blacks consistently vote democrat? because it's easier to control them. That's racism.

typo?
that doesnt make any sense or I cant read

03-04-2017 , 02:25 PM

#16096

microbet

Solar Powered

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,092

Quote:

Originally Posted by truefish

Yea and you voted for the racist Hillary Clinton.

Fascists love doublespeak.

03-04-2017 , 02:25 PM

#16097

.Alex.

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,672

Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

He's just a Republican that likes to smoke weed. What a joke.

Aside from Drugs, Gary Johnson agrees with you on abortion, military, civil rights, asset-forfeiture, immigration, gay marriage, and NSA issues.

No it's not perfect, but there is enough of an overlap for you to make a case that his voters should be on your side instead of handing them over to Republicans with which they have much less in common.