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01-26-2017 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
At this point I think I hope Trump slaps a tariff on Mexico and they respond. US ag will take the brunt. US farmers are not exactly thriving right now, and they will get decimated.
wait, what? I've been so focused on being anti-trump for who he is as a person, I didn't even realize this.
**** **** ****
01-26-2017 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
Um, this doesn't seem right. Trump/Bannon are going to publish a weekly list of illegal immigrant crimes!??! wtf. Are they even going to bother to wait to see if they are guilty? Der Stürmeresque.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7546826.html
Like Breitbart's Black Crime Column, but the White House's own weekly version. Repulsive.

Full on banana republic.
01-26-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
Can anyone predict how Trump will react in a crisis?
Lashing out, vengeful, uninformed, blaming everyone but himself. Probably while patting his own back for reacting so soon.
01-26-2017 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut



I heard none of the people involved in any of the major US terror attacks were actually from the list of banned countries.
Trump now has liberals arguing to expand the Muslim bans, impressive. 4-D chess!
01-26-2017 , 02:32 PM
how long until the cia terminates trump ?
01-26-2017 , 02:33 PM
Man, I wish it was just being a Banana republic. This is step one of an ethnic cleansing campaign.
01-26-2017 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.mmmKay
I wonder how many Trump supporters would want a wall if the USA has to pay for it.
ummm, all of them. just take it from "entitlements." that would actually be preferable to them. they love to make poor ppl suffer.
01-26-2017 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
Can anyone predict how Trump will react in a crisis?
Trump can't even predict it. It's a scary thought.
01-26-2017 , 02:37 PM
Am I reading correctly that Trump just said he might not repeal Obamacare just to try and pin it on the Dems?

hahahhahahahhahaha
01-26-2017 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
Am I reading correctly that Trump just said he might not repeal Obamacare just to try and pin it on the Dems?

hahahhahahahhahaha
This is one of the few areas where I think Trump is correct. Repeal and replace means the GOP owns it. And they don't want that. Healthcare can crash and burn much worse than it is under Obamacare. I think Republicans are much more comfortable whining about the evils of Obamacare than actually trying to come up with something better.
01-26-2017 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
This is one of the few areas where I think Trump is correct. Repeal and replace means the GOP owns it. And they don't want that. Healthcare can crash and burn much worse than it is under Obamacare. I think Republicans are much more comfortable whining about the evils of Obamacare than actually trying to come up with something better.
The greyhound finally caught the rabbit and doesn't know wtf to do next
01-26-2017 , 02:58 PM
https://www.texastribune.org/2016/06...ent=1485376484

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"Mr. Trump, you’re a racist and you can take your border wall and shove it up your ass," the Brownsville Democrat wrote in a lengthy missive to the real estate magnate.
01-26-2017 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
This is one of the few areas where I think Trump is correct. Repeal and replace means the GOP owns it. And they don't want that. Healthcare can crash and burn much worse than it is under Obamacare. I think Republicans are much more comfortable whining about the evils of Obamacare than actually trying to come up with something better.
That doesn't work. They said they are going to replace it hundreds of times over the past 8 years. They can pussy out but they cant cry anymore. They are in power now.
01-26-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
This is one of the few areas where I think Trump is correct. Repeal and replace means the GOP owns it. And they don't want that. Healthcare can crash and burn much worse than it is under Obamacare. I think Republicans are much more comfortable whining about the evils of Obamacare than actually trying to come up with something better.
If Rs try to pass something and Ds filibuster it then maybe this strategy will work. But logically, I don't see how saying there is an impending disaster but I chose to do nothing about it for two years when I held all the power because "I didn't cause the problem" flies. That's crazy.

OTOH, logic has nothing to do with politics and Rs blatant attempt to steal a Supreme Court seat was rewarded with literally everything so who knows.
01-26-2017 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
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"Well, I would have liked to have spoken in a much more diplomatic fashion, but I felt like I had to speak to Donald Trump in language he understands," he said.
Savage. Laughed so hard.
01-26-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
This is one of the few areas where I think Trump is correct. Repeal and replace means the GOP owns it. And they don't want that. Healthcare can crash and burn much worse than it is under Obamacare. I think Republicans are much more comfortable whining about the evils of Obamacare than actually trying to come up with something better.
lol you think???

If they had a viable replacement plan we'd have heard all about it during one of the THREE election cycles we've had since they vowed to repeal it at all costs
01-26-2017 , 03:05 PM
“We have agreed to cancel our planned meeting,” Mr. Trump said in a new conference Thursday afternoon. “Unless Mexico is going to treat the U.S. fairly, with respect, such a meeting would be fruitless, and I want to go a different route. We have no choice.”

I have a feeling we're gonna hear trump declare that "We have no choice." again
01-26-2017 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Nor has there been a 2000 mile wall build over rough terrain since the Qin Dynasty. How did that wall work out?

8T is a little hyperbole. But if they ever build the whole thing (which they want) I'd bet it's a lot closer to $800B than $8B. Although we'll never know for sure because Trump and Congress will obscure the costs.
Nice.

So you really do have zero clue about anything.

Lol at you putting the over under at 404 billion dollars for a wall. If only there were modern analogues we could look at; oh well, I guess were just stuck drawing inspiration from >2 millenia old dynasties. Glad you were here to steer us in the right direction!!

Oh noes...'rough' terrain! Thanks for the laugh!
01-26-2017 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewsavman
Nice.

So you really do have zero clue about anything.

Lol at you putting the over under at 404 billion dollars for a wall. If only there were modern analogues we could look at; oh well, I guess were just stuck drawing inspiration from >2 millenia old dynasties. Glad you were here to steer us in the right direction!!

Oh noes...'rough' terrain! Thanks for the laugh!
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01-26-2017 , 03:19 PM
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The chief of US Border Patrol has departed the agency, Customs and Border Protection said in a statement Thursday
So he's just ****ing firing everyone?
01-26-2017 , 03:21 PM
In my quest of getting a little bit less ignorant, I have to ask, what are the best news sites that report and have even a little bit of unbiased and actual news?
01-26-2017 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
In my quest of getting a little bit less ignorant, I have to ask, what are the best news sites that report and have even a little bit of unbiased and actual news?
There's no one best source, and there's no such thing as being unbiased, but that's not to equate a bias with alternative facts.
01-26-2017 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
So he's just ****ing firing everyone?
draining the swamp?
01-26-2017 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
In my quest of getting a little bit less ignorant, I have to ask, what are the best news sites that report and have even a little bit of unbiased and actual news?
I usually look at European sites who report on US new first since they're not as invested in our politics.
01-26-2017 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
This is phenomenal. Some serious heat.

      
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