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03-04-2017 , 07:58 AM

#15901

m_reed05

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03-04-2017 , 08:01 AM

#15902

adios

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

Anecdotally, a month ago I was gearing up for a trial, and one of my witnesses was an University student (international student), pursuing his doctorate, here legally from a South American country. He was afraid to testify because he thought it would somehow screw up his status in the country, and insisted that he would bring his passport and other immigration paperwork with him "just in case," despite my reassurances that he did not need it and had nothing to worry about. I've been doing this for 11 years now and I have never experienced anything like it. The environment Trump has created even for legal immigrants, tourists, and international students is absolutely toxic and horrible. I was embarrassed for my country.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I work with a bunch of Indians who usually go back for 3-4 weeks/year. I know a few of them have cancelled their trips out of fear of not getting back into the country.

I type this knowing the Trump supporters here just popped a giant erection while reading it.

Irrational people going to be irrational

03-04-2017 , 08:03 AM

#15903

Chippa58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatal Checkraise

Uhh...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...87684660412416

Maybe somebody could have told Sessions this, because his comments make absolutely no sense. Why have a meeting with a Russian Ambassador during the height of concerns about Russian meddling, and then forget what you talked about? This wasn't that long ago. Does he forget most things about most of his meetings?

03-04-2017 , 08:06 AM

#15904

m_reed05

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03-04-2017 , 08:19 AM

#15905

Fatal Checkraise

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So, what TV show/news site talked about Obummer tapping Donnie's phone? Havent found anything on Breitbart or Gatewaypundit.

Or has he entered the next phase of "making up **** as we go"?

Edit: Apparently Breitbart it is.

03-04-2017 , 08:21 AM

#15906

FlyWf

It's the other way

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This was on Breitbart yesterday,
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...dermine-trump/

03-04-2017 , 08:22 AM

#15907

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,097

Also man I know Trump is a Master Manipulator who does the best business deals, but I'm pretty sure he's only seen the phrase "wiretapped" written out and so he thinks the present tense is "tapp" because he's a ****ing moron

03-04-2017 , 08:24 AM

#15908

Chippa58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

So great to have a president who spells tap with an extra "P". An extra "pee".

03-04-2017 , 08:28 AM

#15909

m_reed05

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Leave him alone guys, he just likes pee.

03-04-2017 , 08:41 AM

#15910

JordanIB

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

lol, this

Can't wait for the dumb reputable news orgs to spread headlines like "Trump claims residence wire tapped by Obama" and actually legitimize this stuff.

03-04-2017 , 08:45 AM

#15911

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

It's like they're purposely trying to destroy the country

It's not like that, that is exactly what they are trying to do.

03-04-2017 , 08:49 AM

#15912

AllCowsEatGrass

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I love that the N.S.A. and probably U.S. Cyber Command owned Trump's people.

Quote:

WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

But the intercepts alarmed American intelligence and law enforcement agencies, in part because of the amount of contact that was occurring while Mr. Trump was speaking glowingly about the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin. At one point last summer, Mr. Trump said at a campaign event that he hoped Russian intelligence services had stolen Hillary Clinton’s emails and would make them public.
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The officials said the intercepted communications were not limited to Trump campaign officials, and included other associates of Mr. Trump. On the Russian side, the contacts also included members of the government outside of the intelligence services, they said. All of the current and former officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because the continuing investigation is classified.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/u...rump.html?_r=0

Donald Trump is right that some communications were intercepted, certainly by the NSA, probably Cyber Command as well. Maybe he had direct contact with the Russians in question, and his communications were intercepted as well. It's entirely possible.

That goes to show you not that Obama was trying to destroy Trump or whatever he's got cooked up in his insane, sociopathic head, but that goes to show you that the N.S.A. and probably U.S. Cyber Command as well consider what was taking place to be relevant to National security.

That goes to show you how serious this is, and in my view, it's looking more and more likely that Trump won't complete a full term. I don't know if that's impeachment, or resignation, but I think those are most likely.

edit:

This goes to show you that the N.S.A. absolutely can intercept and listen to the content of phone calls, not just the metadata.

Quote:

The officials said that one of the advisers picked up on the calls was Paul Manafort, who was Mr. Trump’s campaign chairman for several months last year and had worked as a political consultant in Ukraine. The officials declined to identify the other Trump associates on the calls.

The call logs and intercepted communications are part of a larger trove of information that the F.B.I. is sifting through as it investigates the links between Mr. Trump’s associates and the Russian government, as well as the hacking of the D.N.C., according to federal law enforcement officials....

The officials would not disclose many details, including what was discussed on the calls, the identity of the Russian intelligence officials who participated, and how many of Mr. Trump’s advisers were talking to the Russians. It is also unclear whether the conversations had anything to do with Mr. Trump himself.

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03-04-2017 , 08:53 AM

#15913

King_of_NYC

betting he never calls me again

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^ source of that quote?

03-04-2017 , 08:57 AM

#15914

AllCowsEatGrass

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Sorry I forgot to paste the link in my post. Fixed.

03-04-2017 , 09:11 AM

#15915

einbert

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Great thread on the new ICE rule being proposed to separate mothers from their children at the border:

https://twitter.com/absurdistwords/s...03297864859651

03-04-2017 , 09:13 AM

#15916

weeeez

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,778

trump completely out of control with twitter this looks like a tabloid feed news.

03-04-2017 , 09:17 AM

#15917

King_of_NYC

betting he never calls me again

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,430

Obvious that no one has control over OG. Just wondering if Bannon's play is as simple as: do everything he can to "destroy the administrative state" until they all end up in cages.

4D chess obvs

03-04-2017 , 09:19 AM

#15918

Money2Burn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adios

A Democrat appointed by a Democrat making a Democrat Party talking point, go figure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adios

Irrational people going to be irrational

People's lives are getting wrecked needlessly by heartless bigots and you are here trying to make it political. **** off.

03-04-2017 , 09:21 AM

#15919

einbert

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https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/stat...04249388093440

03-04-2017 , 09:21 AM

#15920

kep

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03-04-2017 , 09:22 AM

#15921

DisGunBGud

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Jesus Trump is coming apart at the seams

03-04-2017 , 09:29 AM

#15922

einbert

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Spreading hate: How white supremacists hijacked social media
https://www.indy100.com/article/whit...center-7512931

Quote:

2016 - the year of the social Neo Nazi?

In September 2016, J.M Berger of the Center for Homeland and Cyber Security, a group at George Washington University, produced a comparative study of white nationalists and Isis, specifically how both used Twitter to recruit followers and propagate their messages.

It found that while Isis had originally been heralded as the 'modern' force, utilising social media, their reliance on Twitter as a tool was declining.

This was in stark contrast the number of followers of white nationalist organisations and individuals, which had dramatically increased between 2014 and 2016.

Berger determined a Twitter profile was 'white nationalist' through several manual criteria: The Twitter profiles which were openly so (did not use pseudonyms or anonymity), ones which displayed Nazi or Neo-Nazi imagery (such as the swastika), ones which contained URLs to white nationalist websites in the profile, and ones which were taken from hate group lists compiled by organisations such as the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Berger also found that white supremacist accounts outperformed Isis accounts in almost all current and historic metrics.

More followers.
More tweets per day.
More interactions.

The only metric in which Isis accounts outperformed white nationalist accounts, was in their message discipline.

Isis accounts consistently used the same hashtags and key phrases.

White nationalist accounts survive far longer than Isis accounts.

Even with Twitter's policy, only 288 of the 4000 far right accounts were suspended between their initial collection in April and the policy change in August 2016.

By comparison 1,100 Isis accounts were suspended during and immediately after their collection in Berger's dataset.
Social media savvy

Berger's data also revealed some of the most used profiles tweeted links from white nationalist accounts.

The top link was surprising.

Rather than any particular content (such as the six hour documentary about Adolf Hitler that was also widely shared), the most frequently shared link was for the app Crowdfire.

Crowdfire, along with the second most shared link - Statusbrew, are social media engagement apps.

One of their main features is the mass following of other accounts based on the use of certain keywords.

With this in mind, the far right's dominance of certain parts of the internet, is revealed to be less a reflection of their popularity, than a concerted social media strategy.

The far right is growing their brand, just like an social media marketing executive would.

03-04-2017 , 09:30 AM

#15923

weeeez

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,778

Quote:

Originally Posted by kep

even if you pro trump you have to see that this is a weird tweet coming from a president (im nice).
its awesome guys,he basically is easily trolled and wants to have the last word no matter what.
this looks like typical crying posts on forums and you could insert between each tweet:

u mad?