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03-04-2017 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
lol, this is a lie.
It most certainly is not a lie. I stated that I checked your posts to find your outrage over Obama's deportations and found no such posting. That is unequivocally true.

It may very well be true that you do have posts condemning Obama's record amount of deportations, which is why I cordially asked you for such proof, which went without response, which is surprising since a quick citation and a "lol Dan!" seems like something you would rather enjoy.

And yet you still have not cited such, and instead made a false statement claiming I lied about my results in searching for such proof. Hmmm
03-04-2017 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
It most certainly is not a lie. I stated that I checked your posts to find your outrage over Obama's deportations and found no such posting. That is unequivocally true.
What did you search for?
03-04-2017 , 01:50 AM
Deport, and various forms of the word. Then skimmed the major threads I found, namely the Arizona immigration bill thread, the Obama prioritizing dangerous criminal illegal immigrants, and the Colin Powell illegal immigrant thread.

The Arizona one is pretty unwieldy, which is why I just asked you for a citation and said I could not find anything on my own instead of being a dick and being like 'Nah bro!', as I figured you would likely be able to quickly snag whatever references.
03-04-2017 , 01:56 AM
Oh I see, arguing for pages on behalf of an immigration policy far more open than that of the Obama administration does not meet your standards of "bitching." So it's just flagrant intellectual dishonesty instead of traditional lying.

Last edited by MrWookie; 03-04-2017 at 02:01 AM. Reason: And across multiple threads over the span of almost a decade!
03-04-2017 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
It's like they're purposely trying to destroy the country
Well, that was the campaign they ran on.
03-04-2017 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Oh I see, arguing for pages on behalf of an immigration policy far more open than that of the Obama administration does not meet your standards of "bitching." So it's just flagrant intellectual dishonesty instead of traditional lying.
That is great and all and I am glad you are on my side of supporting views that are far more open than what took place during the Obama administration.

But I don't know if I would go so far as considering that condemnation of the massive amount of deportation that took place under Obama. But I guess "GOATBama gonna GOATBama!" amirite?
03-04-2017 , 02:14 AM


True, but GOP voters want someone like them.
03-04-2017 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Oh I see, arguing for pages on behalf of an immigration policy far more open than that of the Obama administration does not meet your standards of "bitching." So it's just flagrant intellectual dishonesty instead of traditional lying.
Goes without saying, of course, that just from the context of this exchange it's pretty clear that Dan does not share your views on immigration, and any claims to the contrary are obvious lies, and he has absolutely no track record of supporting amnesty or reform in any meaningful way.

What he has is a track record of regurgitating right wing talking points against them smug libtards what that love Messicans more than Real Americans.
03-04-2017 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Denver prosecutor had to dismiss 4 cases because witness wouldn't testify for fear of deportation.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/poli...ases/415790173
Anecdotally, a month ago I was gearing up for a trial, and one of my witnesses was an University student (international student), pursuing his doctorate, here legally from a South American country. He was afraid to testify because he thought it would somehow screw up his status in the country, and insisted that he would bring his passport and other immigration paperwork with him "just in case," despite my reassurances that he did not need it and had nothing to worry about. I've been doing this for 11 years now and I have never experienced anything like it. The environment Trump has created even for legal immigrants, tourists, and international students is absolutely toxic and horrible. I was embarrassed for my country.

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03-04-2017 , 02:17 AM
jmann did you tell him about Obama, though?
03-04-2017 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Goes without saying, of course, that just from the context of this exchange it's pretty clear that Dan does not share your views on immigration, and any claims to the contrary are obvious lies, and he has absolutely no track record of supporting amnesty or reform in any meaningful way.

What he has is a track record of regurgitating right wing talking points against them smug libtards what that love Messicans more than Real Americans.
One more lie.
03-04-2017 , 02:20 AM
No ****. Do you think even naturalized citizens feel safe? How long before they dig up a DUI from '78 or something when an immigrant only had a green card and revoke someone's US passport?
03-04-2017 , 02:21 AM


putin's crew actually live lavish lifestyles through charity foundation corruption, in the EXACT way trump continually portrayed the clinton foundation as operating throughout his campaign. this is more proof to me that the entire trump campaign was organized BY putin FOR putin, to troll the likely american president with whataboutism.
03-04-2017 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini


Fast forward to 32:55
yea that sh*t is odd.
03-04-2017 , 02:24 AM
I work with a bunch of Indians who usually go back for 3-4 weeks/year. I know a few of them have cancelled their trips out of fear of not getting back into the country.

I type this knowing the Trump supporters here just popped a giant erection while reading it.
03-04-2017 , 02:30 AM
Thanks for spreading the word about the Medvedev investigation. Presidential elections in Russia in 2018 are going to be something. There could be strikes. There will be demonstrations. There will be fake news. There will be corruption reports around Putin himself like never before. Even if sanctions are lifted, the moment they start pumping money somewhere, it will be known to the IC.
03-04-2017 , 02:31 AM
I would like to use the bathroom in a 100m house. Good hustling by David Cay Johnston there, crazy story.
03-04-2017 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian


putin's crew actually live lavish lifestyles through charity foundation corruption, in the EXACT way trump continually portrayed the clinton foundation as operating throughout his campaign. this is more proof to me that the entire trump campaign was organized BY putin FOR putin, to troll the likely american president with whataboutism.
Conveniently foxnews is running a story how clinton foundation connections to Russia are more than alleged trump ties. Yeah right!
03-04-2017 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jman220
Anecdotally, a month ago I was gearing up for a trial, and one of my witnesses was an University student (international student), pursuing his doctorate, here legally from a South American country. He was afraid to testify because he thought it would somehow screw up his status in the country, and insisted that he would bring his passport and other immigration paperwork with him "just in case," despite my reassurances that he did not need it and had nothing to worry about. I've been doing this for 11 years now and I have never experienced anything like it. The environment Trump has created even for legal immigrants, tourists, and international students is absolutely toxic and horrible. I was embarrassed for my country.

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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I work with a bunch of Indians who usually go back for 3-4 weeks/year. I know a few of them have cancelled their trips out of fear of not getting back into the country.

I type this knowing the Trump supporters here just popped a giant erection while reading it.

There's been a big controversy around SXSW contracts, stating that if performers from overseas play in unofficial showcases, they risk being deported.

It's almost like overnight, a curtain of oppression has swept over the U.S.

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South by Southwest organizers rushed to explain a portion of their contract that warns immigration authorities may be notified if foreign musicians break festival rules.

The music and tech festival, which begins March 10 in Austin, Texas, came under attack Thursday when Brooklyn-based musical act Told Slant canceled a scheduled appearance because of language in the contract.

The section says organizers reserve the right to “notify the appropriate U.S. immigration authorities” if “showcasing acts or their representatives have acted in ways that adversely affect the viability” of the festival.

Another section warns that “accepting and performing in unofficial events may result in immediate deportation.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b05cf0f3ff45b3


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SXSW has vowed to change the language in its contracts after an open letter signed by more than 50 artists expressed “outrage” over a clause which said the festival would report international acts to immigration authorities if they broke certain rules.

In a statement the festival said it would be “be reviewing and amending it for 2018 and beyond” after the controversy which started on Thursday when Brooklyn punk group Told Slant pulled out of the event due to the offending clause.

The likes of Rage Against The Machine frontman Zach de la Rocha, indie duo PWR BTTM, rapper Talib Kweli and anti-folk star Kimya Dawson, all signed the open letter which expressed shock that the festival would report acts to immigration authorities.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...sy-open-letter
03-04-2017 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sylar
Conveniently foxnews is running a story how clinton foundation connections to Russia are more than alleged trump ties. Yeah right!
You know how fast I'd make this trade right now? Lock them all up, done next.
03-04-2017 , 02:37 AM
I wonder what percent of TRUMPERS will want to get off the train when it's proven Trump colluded with Putiny vs Clinton? Less than three?
03-04-2017 , 02:40 AM

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03-04-2017 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
I wonder what percent of TRUMPERS will want to get off the train when it's proven Trump colluded with Putiny vs Clinton? Less than three?
The real question is what % will like Trump more? 50%? They ****ing love Putin. He puts those libtards in their place. Doesn't it just make you all tingly inside?

They would snap-take the US becoming a sham democracy like Russia over a democrat ever winning the White House again.
03-04-2017 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
One more lie.
Dan,

Again, this is advice I can give to you with 100% confidence you won't internalize and turn against us.

When liberals "do identity politics", they don't do it as a point scoring rhetorical exercise. They do it out of sincere empathy for those affected. Racism, sexism, bigotry... these aren't internet owns, they are societal evils.

But to right wingers, such as yourself, that's all you've ever known them as. Mean words said by people who think they're better than you but who can't address the logic and reason of your argument so they do SJW ****.

It's why you can see the homophobia in me calling you lil homie gay ass, but not in Ron Paul's We The People Act. And it's why your line here was copy and ****ing pasted from trufish, and out and proud Trump voter.

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Originally Posted by truefish
How many people did Obama deport? How many people did he drone? We're you bitching then?
03-04-2017 , 02:47 AM
Thanks chief. gg

      
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