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03-02-2017 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
This means Trump and Session are in on something with the Russians. How can there be any doubt?
I wonder how long it'll be before we really understand the relationship. What promises were made, etc.? Seems to be backfiring though on both parties. Trump Administration under serious fire, and would seem to be very unwise to adopt or change any policies to favor Russia at this point.
03-02-2017 , 01:15 PM
Are foreign ambassadors often at party conventions? That seems really weird to me.
03-02-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
I wonder how long it'll be before we really understand the relationship. What promises were made, etc.? Seems to be backfiring though on both parties. Trump Administration under serious fire, and would seem to be very unwise to adopt or change any policies to favor Russia at this point.
It's not backfiring on Russia. They don't need their compensation to be policy change. They are plenty happy with the compensation being a reduction in American legitimacy and competence and global stature.
03-02-2017 , 01:20 PM
Someone needs to tell the trump fans that mccaskill didn't lie under oath to congress in a hearing for her whitehouse cabinet appointment.
03-02-2017 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
People may not be dumb but then you must not be people.

That you have chosen to die on this hill is lol.

Are you getting shook that trump will have the two shortest cabinet member terms in the history of the United States?
Flynn never cabinet member tho...
03-02-2017 , 01:23 PM
lol at this "out of context" angle-shoot garbage

Jeff Sessions the Senator wears the same skin suit as Jeff Sessions the Campaign Surrogate or whatever else he wants to call himself. Given all of the current known controversy with Russian involvement in the election there's no way you anyone can justify failure to disclosure 2 meetings with the Russian ambassador in January. No way. I don't gaf how you word the question.

If he had simply said, "...however, I did meet with so-and-so as part of my role with the AS committee, our business concerned Y issue..." Yes it would have been questioned, and probably noteworthy to point out that meetings with the Russian ambassador aren't common on that committee (20/26 members told the WaPo they did not last year, and the other 6 didn't answer).

Instead he tried to slide it by and got caught. Good work by WaPo
03-02-2017 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Are foreign ambassadors often at party conventions? That seems really weird to me.
Someone said there's a State Department program that invites foreign emissaries out to election events "to show how American democracy works".
03-02-2017 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by th14
Semantics aren't compelling in this case. Sessions was clearly a member of Trump's campaign team, he was asked about contact between the team and Russia, he acknowledged himself as part of the team and denied contacts despite having a private meeting in his office with the Russian ambassador

What Jeff Sessions said about Russia, and when


And their other meeting was in Cleveland, site of the Republican National Convention, while the convention was occurring...

But, yeah, I'm sure that the election never came up. I'm also confident that Sessions made it crystal clear to the Russian Ambassador that he was talking to him in his capacity as a Senator, and certainly not as someone who frequently appeared on the stump for Trump, and who had been publicly identified as one of his primary foreign policy advisors. (http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/201...ds_donald.html). Maybe Sessions even wore a nametag or badge of some sort so that the Ambassador could know in which capacity Sessions was acting.

03-02-2017 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
The two questions are not connected at all. They are two entirely different questions asked by two different people and the answer to the Franken question is clear as day. While he might have gotten away with the written deception it's now extremely likely that is also a lie given his verbal lie that is crystal clear.
Yeah this. He's got some plausible deniability wrt Leahey, assuming the actual contents of his conversations with Comrade Whatshisface don't get leaked. The statement he made to Franken is unequivocally false.
03-02-2017 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
He's not willing to recuse himself.

He said he's willing to recuse himself IF NECESSARY.
IS NECESSARY

IS NECESSARY

03-02-2017 , 01:45 PM
Are my ears deceiving me? Did Nunes just say right now that 'most of the countries in the world have embassies here, most of them are adversaries' or something like that

I need to find the clip but i dont know how really

And then he makes this hairbrained analogy with the reporter 'What if you were in contact with the Russian embassy?'

If someone finds the clip (it was just on CNN now) I love you long time

Last edited by watevs; 03-02-2017 at 01:53 PM.
03-02-2017 , 01:46 PM
Buzz that Trump will sign an executive order that saves his advisers millions of dollars. It is a bit odd that Trump, who doesn't have much interest in policy, magically has very specific and obscure policy points that seem to directly benefit the people he assigns as advisers

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CRITICS ARE CHARGING that billionaire investor Carl Icahn has used his position as Donald Trump’s deregulatory czar to strong-arm the ethanol lobby into agreeing to a change that will save one of Icahn’s companies $200 million a year.

If so, this would be the most obvious example yet of crony capitalism in the Trump era.

Trump named Icahn as deregulatory czar in December, saying he would be “a leader in helping American entrepreneurs shed job-killing regulations that stifle economic growth.” But because Icahn was a “special adviser” to the president with no formal White House position, the administration said he did not have to divest from any of his prodigious financial holdings. At the time, observers noted that Icahn would have a perfect opportunity to advise on deregulatory actions that would line his own pockets.
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The backdrop for this drama is the government’s renewable fuel standard, which requires all gasoline sold in America to contain a minimum volume of renewable sources — generally corn-based ethanol.

One of the more arcane elements of the current rule is that oil refiners are responsible to make sure the rule is followed — not the gasoline wholesalers (or “blenders”).

Icahn is the majority owner of CVR Energy, a refiner which does not have the infrastructure to blend ethanol. As a result, CVR must buy renewable fuel credits to comply with their obligation.

In its most recent SEC filing, CVR stated it spent $205.9 million last year on renewable fuel credits. Shifting the point of obligation to blenders would relieve CVR of that expense. “That’s big money, even to a billionaire,” Slocum told The Intercept.

Not surprisingly, Icahn has long wanted the renewable-fuels industry to agree that the obligation should belong to the wholesalers, not the refiners.

And all of a sudden this week, the top renewable-fuels trade organization reversed its previous position and announced that it had reached an agreement with Icahn, on his terms.
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The controversy deepened when Bob Dinneen, president and CEO of RFA, told Bloomberg that he made the deal because “I was told in no uncertain terms that the point of obligation was going to be moved, and I said I wanted to see one of our top agenda items moved.” He added that he was “told the executive order was not negotiable.” This backed RFA into a corner, forcing it to join with Icahn to get something out of the deal.

https://theintercept.com/2017/03/02/...pany-millions/
03-02-2017 , 01:49 PM
Failed software engineer ChrisV has unbalanced btrees. Hates time tested OOP concepts. Sad!
03-02-2017 , 01:51 PM
Is Spiceman on today? Should be incredible, if so.
03-02-2017 , 01:52 PM
Did Nunes just threaten the press that they would investigate press phone calls to the Russian Embassy? Clearly Nunes is not an enthusiastic participant in this investigation.
03-02-2017 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by watevs
Are my ears deceiving me? Did Nunez just say right now that 'most of the countries in the world have embassies here, most of them are adversaries' or something like that

I need to find the clip but i dont know how really
He deflected a question with a slippery slope threat to investigate journalists or ordinary citizens who talk to Russians. This guy is another beauty.

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03-02-2017 , 01:56 PM
Unbalanced binary search trees? Bro, do you even compile?
03-02-2017 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
Is Spiceman on today? Should be incredible, if so.
this.

I haven't seen a briefing in awhile and am home today.
03-02-2017 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rockfsh
Flynn never cabinet member tho...
Two shortest terms of senior whitehouse officials in the history of the United States then.
03-02-2017 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
Did Nunes just threaten the press that they would investigate press phone calls to the Russian Embassy? Clearly Nunes is not an enthusiastic participant in this investigation.
That was so weird. She asked about the FBI giving info, he said it hadn't been given, she asked why not, and he said because it was complicated.

Then he proceeded to give this analogy saying that they were probably in contact with the Russian embassy, and would they want their phone calls out there investigated?

Then she asks well isn't there a difference between a public and private citizen and I can't remember what he said to that but it was done after that
03-02-2017 , 01:57 PM
****ing MSNBC running with "by golly, why not recuse, will make things easier!"

Because, ****heads, he lied for a ****ing reason! What, he just happened to ****ing lie under oath about a hyper sensitive subject?

THE MEDIA
03-02-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
The other question ("What is an abstract class, and why do you need it.") is easy to answer for someone of my vintage, but front-end web developers might struggle. Really the absolute correct answer is "It's a concept from like 20 years ago, and I don't need it, thanks all the same".
03-02-2017 , 02:02 PM
Hope you like your takes bleak:

03-02-2017 , 02:05 PM
03-02-2017 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
Why didn't you hilight the part that said "I did not have communications with the Russians."?

The funny part is Franken didn't even ask if he had contact w/ the Russians. He freely gave that up under oath. That's something a person guilty of something does. It's like a driver that knows he was speeding getting pulled over, the cop asks "Do you know why I pulled you over?" and saying "Officer, I wasn't speeding. Why did you pull me over?"

Dude, if there is nothing to see here, you should WELCOME an investigation. This guy is the AG. He's not some random cop out in the sticks.

But you are Trump slappy. You can't possibly admit that your orange messiah and his cronies may be up to no good.

      
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