The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. - Page 593 - Politics and Economics

Two Plus Two Forums Other Topics Politics

The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

...

Page 593 of 5382

First

93 393 493 543 573 583 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 603 613 643 693 793 1093 1593

Last

Page 593 of 5382

First

93 393 493 543 573 583 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 603 613 643 693 793 1093 1593

Last

03-02-2017 , 02:12 AM

#14801

microbet

Solar Powered

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,107

Sadly we're all hoping for Pence to be POTUS. Very sadly it could be the Koch Brothers behind the scene who deliver Trump's head. I believe congress is sufficiently afraid of them and I'm sure they'd prefer Pence.

03-02-2017 , 02:12 AM

#14802

stinkubus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,422

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

If John McCain doesn't hurry up when he dies his tombstone will read "Talked a Good Game But Didn't Do ****"

McCain-Feingold, tho. Even if we only ended up w/ the results of Citizens United John McCain very much tried to help limit the influence of donors.

03-02-2017 , 02:15 AM

#14803

batair

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 16,802

Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

This isn't an action movie. Obama ain't coming back and the optics on it would be awful

Unless he brought GWB as a sidekick.

03-02-2017 , 02:19 AM

#14804

RV Life

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurodp

If you have Amazon Prime you can get like 6 months free of Wapo. link https://subscribe.washingtonpost.com/prime/#/

Cool. I do have Amazon Prime. Thanks.

03-02-2017 , 02:21 AM

#14805

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

solace in the fact that all the millions of ****heads who voted trump and still support everything single thing he says and does would be proven to be what they are.

Would also basically kill the GOP completely for 2018 and 2020

I'm sure Pence would NOT have an easy time being president and getting everything he wants through if Trump gets impeached, I'd love to see him have the opportunity though...

03-02-2017 , 02:31 AM

#14806

microbet

Solar Powered

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,107

Here's hoping

03-02-2017 , 02:42 AM

#14807

.isolated

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,495

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

and here we go

"Trump's successful address to the nation sent from my Iphone". That fun grammar mistake/nit is more fun than the tweet.

I'm less optimistic about anything happening with Sessions than with Flynn. But hopefully I'm wrong and he's kicked the **** out resigns.

03-02-2017 , 02:59 AM

#14808

iron81

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,730

Sessions isn't going anywhere without a fight after giving up his Senate seat to take the job.

03-02-2017 , 03:04 AM

#14809

AllTheCheese

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 11,898

I said nothing would happen to Flynn, and we saw how that turned out. So let's try again.

Nothing will happen to Sessions. You hear that, Universe and gods of fate? NOTHING.

03-02-2017 , 03:04 AM

#14810

iron81

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,730

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

Would also basically kill the GOP completely for 2018 and 2020

Basically, Trump will be gone when Ryan calculates keeping him is worse for the GOP than losing 20% of their base, which would give the Dems the House. The base would consider impeaching Trump the ultimate rat****.

03-02-2017 , 03:28 AM

#14811

5ive

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 6,766

Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Here's hoping

Hey, hey Woody Guthrie, I wrote you a song
About a funny old world that's coming along
Seems sick and it's hungry, it's tired and it's torn
It looks like it's dying and it's hardly been born

03-02-2017 , 03:35 AM

#14812

hornbug

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 657

This attack on Sessions is doomed to fail. Sessions didn't commit perjury because the Leahy and Franken questions were more specific than "did you have any meeting at all about any topic?" When you testify you answer the questions asked, not the questions unasked, and Sessions answered the questions that were asked truthfully. Eventually everyone will figure out that this was just another distorted news story. Just more spin

03-02-2017 , 03:39 AM

#14813

microbet

Solar Powered

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,107

Quote:

Originally Posted by hornbug

So his testimony was entirely consistent with his meeting the ambassador in an official capacity as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee? And this latest attack was by partisan Democrats? Not really a surpise that Senator Al Franken would push this story immediately following President Trump's successful address to the nation, huh?

Sent from my iPhone, right?

03-02-2017 , 03:45 AM

#14814

wheatrich

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 21,406

There's conflicting statements on just the denial.
No big deal I'm sure.

03-02-2017 , 03:47 AM

#14815

Dilznoofus

veteran

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,379

Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Here's hoping

Drunk posted this on FB the other night. No likes

03-02-2017 , 03:53 AM

#14816

Fatal Checkraise

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,413

Somewhere two people had a last-longer bet between Flynn and Sessions and are sweating crazy now.

Flynn had 24 days, Sessions is now at Day 22.

03-02-2017 , 03:55 AM

#14817

Dominic

Tripod

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 74,664

Seems like his time as AG is going to be a short...
*puts on sunglasses*
... session.

[not mine]

03-02-2017 , 03:58 AM

#14818

hornbug

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 657

Sessions met with Russian envoy twice last year, encounters he later did not disclose

the above is the wapo article headline. Misleading because Sessions was never asked to disclose all meetings with Russians.

tomorrow's headline might be:

Sessions ate at XYZ restaurant twice last year, meals he later did not disclose. Pelosi calls for resignation

03-02-2017 , 04:10 AM

#14819

will1530

self-banned

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 5,773

Quote:

Originally Posted by hornbug

Umm. I know these are like facts and all that, so I'm sure you will have an allergic reaction to it, but sessions, completely unprompted, volunteered that he didn't speak to the Russians. It has nothing to do with what he was asked.

03-02-2017 , 04:13 AM

#14820

hornbug

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 657

this is really about forum shopping, related to the idea of judge shopping, and in this case specifically prosecutor shopping.

The Democrats want to get rid of the AG's involvement in all sorts of cases because they feel they will do better with another more friendly prosecutor. What we are seeing is the democrats trying to pervert our justice system by trying to put their fingers on the scales of justice. We should not let their attempt to pervert the justice system succeed.

03-02-2017 , 04:17 AM

#14821

AllTheCheese

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 11,898

Quote:

Originally Posted by hornbug

So your argument is that it's legal to lie under oath as long as the lie is not a 100% direct answer to the question asked? I'm not a lawyer, but Google and Wiki searches for perjury dont support your stance.

Also it is roflcopter that you dismiss as media spin a news story in which the Attorney General of the United States of America lied under oath. Like that's not news, why bother reporting it? Certainly not in the public interest to know that. Nothing to see here move along.

03-02-2017 , 04:21 AM

#14822

AllTheCheese

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 11,898

Quote:

Originally Posted by hornbug

lol.

hornbug: The best way to ensure justice is done in the Donald Trump / Russia investigation is for it to be overseen by the Trump surrogate who lied under oath about his communications with Russia. Why do you hate law and order you lib anarchists?

03-02-2017 , 04:28 AM

#14823

hornbug

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 657

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

So your argument is that it's legal to lie under oath as long as the lie is not a 100% direct answer to the question asked?

He didn't lie under oath, he answered the question asked truthfully, and others are trying to fit his answer to a question that was not asked to make it look like a lie.

I challenge anyone who wishes to do so to post what specific statement you consider to be a lie, and then also post the entire context (the full question and the full response). If you do this you will see that the so-called lie is just out of context or a deliberately misleading application of an answer to a question not asked.

03-02-2017 , 04:34 AM

#14824

AllTheCheese

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 11,898

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washington Post

At his Jan. 10 Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing, Sessions was asked by Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) what he would do if he learned of any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of the 2016 campaign.

“I’m not aware of any of those activities,” he responded. He added: “I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians.”

Whether this was a logically valid answer to the question asked is irrelevant. If you ask me "How much change do you have in your pocket?" and I tell you "I have a billion dollars in my bank account," it's still a ****ing lie. This is not hard, and you are not this stupid.