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02-28-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
So you're just being pedantic.
Now we're calling the difference between fact and fiction pedantic...Ok Kellyanne Conway, put the knife down and let M2B get back to his keyboard!
02-28-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Dan won't let some sniveling (((fiat money supporters))) get away with inaccuracy.

Not. On. His. Watch.
If there's one thing I've learned in the trump era it's that so-called "libertarians" and even so called "anarcho-capitalists" are the first so support and defend fascism when it rears its head, and "big government" liberals are the first to oppose it.
02-28-2017 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I wonder how long the HastenDan screen name was considered for how it might interplay with the word "semantics". SemanDan doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

Although it does look kind of funny in print.
I submit "SeDantics" for your consideration.
02-28-2017 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
If there's one thing I've learned in the trump era it's that so-called "libertarians" and even so called "anarcho-capitalists" are the first so support and defend fascism when it rears its head, and "big government" liberals are the first to oppose it.
Trump is a very clarifying force. He allows a lot of people to be seen for exactly what they are.
02-28-2017 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
So I got a letter from the White House today:

TONIGHT President Donald J. Trump will step up to the Speaker’s rostrum and give his first address to a Joint Session of Congress and to all of America.  

You won’t want to miss this historic event. To see it live, you can go to https://www.whitehouse.gov.

You can also follow the address on Twitter @WhiteHouse and @POTUS, or by visiting the White House Facebook.

The address begins at 9 p.m.

There is still time to take our Joint Address Issues Survey and let us know your thoughts on how to Make America Great Again.

Be sure to tune in tonight!


I clicked on the Survey link and this is what I got:

1) WHICH ACCOMPLISHMENT(S) DO YOU CONSIDER THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SO FAR?

Select All That Apply:

a. Withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership
b. Reviving key job-creating energy projects such as the Keystone Pipeline
c. Directing the Department of Defense to develop a plan to defeat ISIS
d. Enacting regulatory reform to begin to dismantle Obama-era, job-killing regulations
e. Implementing Executive Orders that focus on reducing crime, restoring public safety, dismantling transnational criminal organizations, and protecting our brave law enforcement officials
f. Minimizing the burden of Obamacare, while clearing a path toward repeal and replace
g. Creating the United States-Canada Council for Women Entrepreneurs and Business Leaders
h. Negotiating with companies to bring thousands of jobs back to America
i. Nominating Judge Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court
j. Working with over 30 foreign leaders to discuss shared security concerns and solutions


I was overwhelmed with all the winning Trump has done, I just didn't know where to start. There was also this:

2) WHAT ISSUE(S) DO YOU THINK ARE MOST IMPORTANT FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION TO FOCUS ON?

Select All That Apply:

a. Budget
b. Taxes
c. Jobs
d. Reducing Regulations
e. National Security and Fighting ISIS
f. Repeal and Replace Obamacare
g. Domestic Security and Fighting Crime
h. Education
i. Immigration Reform
j. Veteran Affairs
k. Energy and Environment
l. Government Reform


Then there was this question:

WHAT ARE YOUR IDEAS TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?

There was also an additional comments section.
It's funny about tpp. Bannon masturbates himself to sleep every night thinking about getting rid of the TPP, something literally nobody cared about by the time Trump took office.
02-28-2017 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
None of those articles say what you want them to say.

The RonPaul.com forums is literally all you should have posted, but I gotta say, as a huge RP fanboy from 2008/2012, I've never even heard of that forum.

But OK, so that means that even with 2 million Ron Paul supporters voting for Trump, the Libertarian candidate earned 4 million votes? You think that's a likely story Dvaut? And again, I actually run in libertarian circles, and literally no one voted for Trump. Again, these are the actual principled libertarians, but still...
02-28-2017 , 04:25 PM
I think Ron Paul fans voted for Trump because Trump's white supremacist rhetoric matches Paul's white supremacist rhetoric. Just look at the newsletters, they're right there on the internet for everyone to see. Compare one to a Trump stump speech, you'll find they're incredibly similar.
02-28-2017 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
Now we're calling the difference between fact and fiction pedantic...Ok Kellyanne Conway, put the knife down and let M2B get back to his keyboard!
Getting hung up on "not a word" and, two sentences in a minor speech, is being pedantic, yes.
02-28-2017 , 04:28 PM
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None of those articles say what you want them to say.

The RonPaul.com forums is literally all you should have posted, but I gotta say, as a huge RP fanboy from 2008/2012, I've never even heard of that forum.

But OK, so that means that even with 2 million Ron Paul supporters voting for Trump, the Libertarian candidate earned 4 million votes? You think that's a likely story Dvaut? And again, I actually run in libertarian circles, and literally no one voted for Trump. Again, these are the actual principled libertarians, but still...
No1curr what 'circles' you run in, least of all me. Not interesting.

- Benton and Beach were two of RP's top surrogates, pivoted to Trump.
- Walter Block, Austrian economist and longtime RP friend: pivoted to Trump
- Alex Jones is a notable looney toon who long hosted Ron Paul chat session and now guesses "90% of his audience" supports Trump.
- Ron Paul forum members overwhelmingly support Trump > GJ

But OK, you run in circles so whatever.
02-28-2017 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
No1curr what 'circles' you run in, least of all me. Not interesting.

- Benton and Beach were two of RP's top surrogates, pivoted to Trump.
- Walter Block, Austrian economist and longtime RP friend: pivoted to Trump
- Alex Jones is a notable looney toon who long hosted Ron Paul chat session and now guesses "90% of his audience" supports Trump.
- Ron Paul forum members overwhelmingly support Trump > GJ

But OK, you run in circles so whatever.
Same reason Rand Paul voted for Jeff Sessions for Attorney General.
02-28-2017 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
None of those articles say what you want them to say.

The RonPaul.com forums is literally all you should have posted, but I gotta say, as a huge RP fanboy from 2008/2012, I've never even heard of that forum.

But OK, so that means that even with 2 million Ron Paul supporters voting for Trump, the Libertarian candidate earned 4 million votes? You think that's a likely story Dvaut? And again, I actually run in libertarian circles, and literally no one voted for Trump. Again, these are the actual principled libertarians, but still...
Surely you remember Walter Block though?
02-28-2017 , 04:30 PM
I appreciate that libertarians (tsao) and liberals (dan) are trying to protect us from our own foolishness. They are doing God's work.
02-28-2017 , 04:33 PM
"Soon we'll have a one party system......"

Wtf this racist **** is getting scary now.
02-28-2017 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
No1curr what 'circles' you run in, least of all me. Not interesting.

- Benton and Beach were two of RP's top surrogates, pivoted to Trump.
- Walter Block, Austrian economist and longtime RP friend: pivoted to Trump
- Alex Jones is a notable looney toon who long hosted Ron Paul chat session and now guesses "90% of his audience" supports Trump.
- Ron Paul forum members overwhelmingly support Trump > GJ

But OK, you run in circles so whatever.
You are literally talking about circles dvaut, that's probably the best part of this.

So, it's really cool and all that those three dudes pivoted to Trump, really, fascinating, great reporting from the Post and others, probably win a Pulitzer for that I imagine. But also, 4 million people voted for GJ. That included me and literally every libertarian I know.

So, sorry if I find the claim that the two million Ron Paul supporters pivoted to Trump to be less than credible, when there was a huge jump (what, 3 million people) to the Libertarian party. You're just going to ignore the actual voting numbers and talk about three libertarian dudes?

Edit to add: Can we also focus in on the delicious irony of you finding credibility in an online poll? OMG so tasty so good. omnomnom I eat it up, yummy. Probably would have different results with landlines, mmmm omnonmonm.
02-28-2017 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by martymc1
"Soon we'll have a one party system......"

Wtf this racist **** is getting scary now.
rofl it was a completely childish attempt to troll the democrats. More than half the country voted against the orange clown and a large section of those that didn't are mumbling wtf did I do when they think no one is in earshot. Even he knows this.

The only scary thing is the stooge thought that he was being "smart" with the comment.
02-28-2017 , 04:43 PM
Re: Ron Paul supporters going for Trump

http://www.ronpaul.com/2016-10-27/po...ron-paul-vote/
02-28-2017 , 04:46 PM
Some of the Libertarians were Internet college dudebros who mostly wanted to smoke weed and have like, FREEDOM, dude, but the core of the party was always the unreconstructed "states rights" Neo-Confederates. And when push came to shove, the former were always willing to look the other way or make excuses when the Paul family would cozy up to white supremacists or publish racist pamphlets.

Donald Trump came in and just poached the heart of the Libertarian Party. Some of the shut-in Ayn Rand crew decided to focus on studying antiSJW and manosphere yootoobes instead of Austrian economics and the non-aggression principle yootoobes, and the few remaining diehards are the Gary Johnson fan base.
02-28-2017 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
You are literally talking about circles dvaut, that's probably the best part of this.

So, it's really cool and all that those three dudes pivoted to Trump, really, fascinating, great reporting from the Post and others, probably win a Pulitzer for that I imagine. But also, 4 million people voted for GJ. That included me and literally every libertarian I know.

So, sorry if I find the claim that the two million Ron Paul supporters pivoted to Trump to be less than credible, when there was a huge jump (what, 3 million people) to the Libertarian party. You're just going to ignore the actual voting numbers and talk about three libertarian dudes?

Edit to add: Can we also focus in on the delicious irony of you finding credibility in an online poll? OMG so tasty so good. omnomnom I eat it up, yummy. Probably would have different results with landlines, mmmm omnonmonm.
"lol evidence, data, published articles -- I have friends!"
02-28-2017 , 04:50 PM
Wasn't Ben Garrison a Paul supporter?
02-28-2017 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DVault1
"lol evidence, data, published articles -- I have friends!"
"Look at this online poll I found!! And these three people who once worked with Ron Paul now work with Trump -- I'll just ignore millions of actual votes and pretend they don't even exist by not even responding to their existence!"

A+ so good love you dvault you are a hoot!
02-28-2017 , 04:55 PM
Ben Garrison is mostly a supporter of making lots of money by making cartoons that appeal to rubes
02-28-2017 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
"Look at this online poll I found!! And these three people who once worked with Ron Paul now work with Trump -- I'll just ignore millions of actual votes and pretend they don't even exist by not even responding to their existence!"

A+ so good love you dvault you are a hoot!
So, uh, what is your evidence that all the Johnson voters were Ron Paul fans?
02-28-2017 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
But also, 4 million people voted for GJ.
My understanding is that 3 million of Johnson's votes were from illegal immigrants.
02-28-2017 , 05:08 PM
I don't know that all the RP supporters became GJ voters, aside from anecdotal evidence of all the RP supporters I know. This is just the first time I've ever heard the idea that Ron Paul supporters became Trump supporters. I mean, I guess it's fine either way, it just surprised me.
02-28-2017 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
This is not an isolated incident, by the way: Trump adviser links Dems to Jewish center bomb threats

Seems like Bannon got the whole team on board with this response.

      
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