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02-28-2017 , 03:16 PM

#14176

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Trump told reporters TODAY the JCC bomb threats are a false flag op.

LOL GENERAL SEW

02-28-2017 , 03:19 PM

#14177

DVaut1

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Trump just trying out his newest Yakov Smirnoff routine: In Putin America, sometimes Jewish schools bomb you.

02-28-2017 , 03:19 PM

#14178

otatop

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Guys guys guys, let's not get ahead of ourselves on some secondhand Trump derp. We all know that his words can't always be taken literally so we should wait to hear what he meant before we lose our minds.

02-28-2017 , 03:21 PM

#14179

champstark

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That's straight up anti-Semitic. **** Trump.

Let me clarify for General Sew and others who don't understand. If you suggest that Jews are nefariously threatening to bomb their own centers, you are feeding an anti-Semitic stereotype.

02-28-2017 , 03:21 PM

#14180

Kirbynator

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america will now be spelled Америки

02-28-2017 , 03:21 PM

#14181

Namath12

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Bibi would put this dumb**** on blast if he wasn't such a sniveling coward

02-28-2017 , 03:21 PM

#14182

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Because that kind of interstate terrorism would normally be handled by the feds, the chance that guy gets caught has to be zero.

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02-28-2017 , 03:22 PM

#14183

Namath12

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

It sounds like Bannon and/or Miller fed him a line and as usual he botched the **** out of it because he couldn't read it verbatim.

02-28-2017 , 03:27 PM

#14184

sportsjefe

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It is literally "Hey Rabbi, whatcha doin'?".

02-28-2017 , 03:30 PM

#14185

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I have an embarrassing admission. I was a bit of a Ron Paulite in 08 and 12. Not that he didn't have some good ideas, but boy was I naive. That most of the Ron Paul crew migrated to Trump definitely confirmed the worst about them, because there really is no overlap, save racism.

02-28-2017 , 03:31 PM

#14186

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Did you guys catch Jake Tappers "State of the Cartoonian" on Sunday? Pretty good.

02-28-2017 , 03:32 PM

#14187

DVaut1

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Originally Posted by m_reed05

There's also anti-semitism, paranoia, conspiracy theory mongering. Anti globalization hysteria.

02-28-2017 , 03:36 PM

#14188

BlueWillow

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Not long now till sklansky posts a 'so I've been buying property around Jewish schools and the recent spate of bomb threats has significantly lowered property prices - do I owe the fascists a cut of the savings?'

02-28-2017 , 03:37 PM

#14189

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

There's also anti-semitism, paranoia, conspiracy theory mongering. Anti globalization hysteria.

Remember the Amero and the NAFTA superhighway? Good times.

02-28-2017 , 03:45 PM

#14190

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Originally Posted by m_reed05

A lot of earnest people have been snookered by Ron and continue to be snookered by his son. Both talk a decent game on a debate stage. I think Sam Bee remarked to Gary Johnson during her interview of him that she liked "every other thing" he said. Same could apply to them. The issue is that once you get them away from a debate stage or dig even a little bit deeper than the surface you see them for what they truly are ie racist newsletters and "we shouldn't be wasting our time investigating other Republicans."

02-28-2017 , 03:49 PM

#14191

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The real issue is that libertarianism as an over-arching political philosophy makes no sense once you get past dorm room-level understanding of the world. So the only peddlers of it are people who should know better, but have decided to become hucksters instead.

Sort of like how Al Quada is made up of a few well-educated power-hungry sociopaths, and a ton of low-info rubes.

02-28-2017 , 03:51 PM

#14192

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

That most of the Ron Paul crew migrated to Trump definitely confirmed the worst about them, because there really is no overlap, save racism.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVaut1

There's also anti-semitism, paranoia, conspiracy theory mongering. Anti globalization hysteria.

Wait - Ron Paul crew migrated to Trump? Sorry I haven't been here so must have missed this - how do we know that's true? GJ got four times as many votes as the 2008 libertarian candidate, why aren't we assuming that RP crew migrated to GJ? All of my libertarian friends who were woked by RP voted for GJ - but, they're the "rare" actual libertarians.

Edit: For a better comparison, look at Ron Paul's vote count in 2012, he received 2 million votes during the primary. GJ received 4 million votes in 2016 (up from 523k in 2008 and 1.3 million in 2012).

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02-28-2017 , 03:52 PM

#14193

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lol trump going to mar a lago again this weekend.

Even conservatives must be getting tired of this ****

guy is already steampowering profits off his "guests" and funded by the public

02-28-2017 , 03:53 PM

#14194

suzzer99

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[x] Trump still sticking it to brown people on a daily basis
[ ] conservatives getting tired of this ****

02-28-2017 , 03:56 PM

#14195

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

I guess you can argue I have terrible reading comprehension but I'll go ahead and say that the third section of Coaster's post was clearly in reference to the preceding two sections. If that's not how he intended it (and I think it absolutely was), then it's more the writing than my comprehension.

Would you complain if he had said "Barely a peep out of Trump" rather than not a peep or whatever it was?

02-28-2017 , 03:58 PM

#14196

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Would you complain if he had said "Barely a peep out of Trump" rather than not a peep or whatever it was?

I don't really "complain" about anything written in this forum. But to answer your question, no, I wouldn't have pointed out he was wrong if he was not actually wrong....?

02-28-2017 , 04:07 PM

#14197

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

I don't really "complain" about anything written in this forum. But to answer your question, no, I wouldn't have pointed out he was wrong if he was not actually wrong....?

So you're just being pedantic.

02-28-2017 , 04:09 PM

#14198

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

So you're just being pedantic.

It's sticking it to liberals. Without brave heroes like him, this circlejerk would run the risk of letting hyperbole go unchallenged.

02-28-2017 , 04:09 PM

#14199

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...228-story.html

Cliff notes: Trump thinks we have too many brown and black immigrants and/or people in America

I wonder if any of those racist dips are familiar with Dearborn, Michigan.

02-28-2017 , 04:09 PM

#14200

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...-libertarians/

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Trump’s style and positions — endorsing and consorting with 9/11 truthers, promoting online racists, using fake statistics — draw on a now-obscure political strategy called “paleolibertarianism,” which was once quite popular among some Republicans, especially former presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Formally, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) may be his father’s political heir. But there’s no question that the paranoid and semi-racialist mien frequently favored by Trump originates in the fevered swamps that the elder Paul dwelled in for decades. Most people who back Trump don’t do so for racist reasons, but it’s incredible how many of the same white nationalists and conspiracy theorists to whom Ron Paul once catered are now ardent Trump supporters. It’s because Trump and Paul speak the same language.

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The publications also repeatedly promoted the work of Jared Taylor, a white nationalist writer and editor who is today one of Trump’s most prominent alt-right backers. Articles also featured anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and frequent rants against gay men.

Paul later said he didn’t write the newsletters. But regardless of their authorship, the image they created made him attractive to white nationalists. Those supporters weren’t numerous enough to get Paul the GOP presidential nomination, however, and paleolibertarianism began fizzling out.

In the past few years, however, it’s been reborn as the alt-right, as a new generation of libertarians discovered their hidden heritage and began embracing racism and conspiracy theories. Many alt-right writers trace their roots to Rothbard. As one of them, Gregory Hood, put it, paleolibertarian theories about race and democracy “helped lead to the emergence [of the] Alternative Right.” Rothbard’s call for “sovereign nations based on race and ethnicity” is very similar to beliefs Trump’s alt-right supporters express today.

In 2016, many, if not most, of the extremists who formerly supported Paul have rallied to Trump’s side. In 2007, Paul won an endorsement and a $500 campaign contribution from Don Black, the owner of Stormfront, a self-described “white pride” Web forum. Despite a torrent of criticism, Paul refused to return the money. This March, Black encouraged his radio listeners to vote for Trump, even if he wasn’t perfect.

Memphis-based white nationalist radio host James Edwards supported Paul and likewise backs Trump. His reputation didn’t dissuade either candidate from associating with him. In July, Edwards attended the Republican National Convention on a press pass even after the Trump operation was subjected to embarrasing media coverage for allowing Edwards to interview Donald Trump Jr. For his part, Paul agreed to appear on Edwards’s program in 2006 but canceled at the last minute.

Duke, who is again running for Senate, has also repeatedly expressed his admiration of both men. While Trump has mostly disavowed Duke, Paul said in one of his newsletters that Duke’s political views were “just plain good sense,” despite the “baggage” of his former Klan involvement.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/14/where...s-in-2016.html

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Last month, Walter Block, a libertarian professor of economics and long-time acolyte of Ron Paul, pinched his nose and co-launched a group, Libertarians for Trump.

That would be Donald Trump — the red-tailed hawk of border security, defender of entitlements and opponent of free-trade. Not exactly a disciple of Ayn Rand, the novelist famous for "Atlas Shrugged" who has inspired many libertarians. Block's group, he freely admits, is a strenuous exercise of realpolitik — the ultimate lesser-of-evils decision. While he finds much of Trump's domestic agenda odious, Block very much likes Trump's noninterventionist foreign policy positions.

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Paul's friends have learned better than trying to persuade him to pick the lesser of evils. Block recounts his tireless but fruitless efforts trying to persuade Paul to jump aboard the Trump Train.

"I keep saying, suppose I have a gun to your head, who would you pick? And I still don't get an answer out of him," Block said. "He hates them all, but that's not good enough."

The current state of the Paul coalition ratifies a general truism about political movements, particularly insurgent ones: They tend to go adrift without a charismatic leader at the helm. It also suggests something specific about the Paul coalition that surprised the 2012 race: its support had much more to do with Paul's outsiderism, than his libertarianism.

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With Rand Paul out of the race, Benton last month became an advisor to the pro-Trump Great America PAC, joining Paul's former finance chairman, Eric Beach.

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In an interview with CNBC.com, Benton said that Trump's noninterventionism appealed to him from the start, but he was ultimately persuaded to join the pro-Trump super PAC after a late February lunch with billionaire investor Andrew Beal, a former Paul donor who has since endorsed the Manhattan mogul.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-...ing-alex-jones

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But I kept an eye on Infowars and its proprietor, Alex Jones, who is a conspiracy theorist and radio talk-show host in Austin, Texas. Jones’s guest on his show the morning of the shooting had been, as chance would have it, Donald Trump. Jones had praised Trump, claiming that ninety per cent of his listeners were Trump supporters, and Trump had returned the favor, saying, “Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down.”

http://www.ronpaul.com/2016-10-27/po...ron-paul-vote/

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In a recent poll conducted among visitors, subscribers and readers of the popular RonPaul.com fan site, Donald Trump achieved a decisive victory with 56% of the vote.

Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson came in a respectable second with 20%.

Etc. All the former Ron Paul flackeys and campaign aides, big donors, Alex Jones types, the RonPaul.com forums, etc.

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