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02-27-2017 , 03:20 PM

#14026

sylar

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He's just trying to avoid saying "I didn't know." It's basically "this information was handed to me" defense.

02-27-2017 , 03:20 PM

#14027

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

According the Chris Hayes, they can cut the entire budges of EPA and State down to $0 and they will still be $8 billion short

Well then I guess they'll just have to gut a few more small programs that help actual Americans.

02-27-2017 , 03:21 PM

#14028

simplicitus

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BTW, there's been something like 40/600 nominations for senate confirmed positions so far. Trump doesn't know what these jobs do and, being little more than a small businessman, doesn't know who can fill them. That's fine, however, because the Extremist wackos for Jesus Foundation has a list of "qualified" candidates. This is why you zealously vote for Clinton even if she strangled Bernie's puppy with her bare hands.

02-27-2017 , 03:34 PM

#14029

57 On Red

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

ABC Houston affiliate: "George W. Bush demands answers on Trump and Russia."
BBC: "George W Bush backs free press in rare interview."

I'm giving this one to the BBC.

They're both right.

http://www.today.com/news/george-w-b...travel-t108627

02-27-2017 , 03:46 PM

#14030

m_reed05

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Adam Schiff (also on the House Intelligence Committee with Nunes) says they haven't called on a single witness or reviewed a single document regarding collusion between Trump and Russia. That might explain why Nunes was able to say he hasn't seen any evidence of collusion. He conveniently left that part out.

02-27-2017 , 03:52 PM

#14031

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

And all the other actually legitimate news organizations are branded as FAKE NEWS while Trumpers will never even bother to acknowledge that this sort of fake news is actually a problem and many will still treat it as legitimate.

Great post. By golly I think he's got it!

02-27-2017 , 03:55 PM

#14032

Namath12

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American's Great Right Hope, John McCain, wants even MORE than Trump for defense

02-27-2017 , 04:03 PM

#14033

ScreaminAsian

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TIL the world is on fire

02-27-2017 , 04:04 PM

#14034

otatop

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Being 10 times bigger than the next biggest military leaves us underfunded and undersized?

lol

02-27-2017 , 04:10 PM

#14035

Louis Cyphre

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A 9% increase to the largest military budget(*) in the world as "a first step". Nice.

(*) currently almost 3 times as much as Russia and China combined

02-27-2017 , 04:12 PM

#14036

Louis Cyphre

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Quote:

Originally Posted by otatop

Being 10 times bigger than the next biggest military leaves us underfunded and undersized?

lol

10x is an exaggeration (depending on what you are referring to).

02-27-2017 , 04:13 PM

#14037

einbert

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So yeah that appears to be the plan. They're gonna get rid of Obamacare and cut services across the board to pay for a drastic increase in military spending and a mass deportation force. And a bunch of tax cuts for the 0.1%.

Contact Paul Ryan: (608) 752-4050

02-27-2017 , 04:14 PM

#14038

Zimmer4141

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I really wonder if all these people that claim our military is "underfunded and unprepared" actually believe their bull****, or just know they're lying to satisfy the interests they serve.

02-27-2017 , 04:19 PM

#14039

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre

10x is an exaggeration (depending on what you are referring to).

You're right, it's that the US outspends the next 7 countries on the list (used to be 10 or 11).

I didn't realize China was spending as much as they were on defense, and I think at one point in the past few years the US was spending about 10 times as much as Russia but we're down to "only" spending ~3 times what China spends.

02-27-2017 , 04:27 PM

#14040

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by astro39

There's a fair chunk of Trump's support that wouldn't give a rat's behind if he went out and shot someone in front of a 100 TV cameras. I think he's relatively safe from a historically bad approval rating.

Even if it does plunge below 30 the Republicans need him to push their agenda - the ones they want to get through especially are gutting Obamacare and the precious tax cuts for the rich. Once they get those through, I think Trumps position becomes a lot more tenuous. The only thing that may change that is a hefty smoking cannon implicating Trump with Putin, which I guess is reasonably likely.

If his approval ratings go below 30/20 is there any way the GOP can hold the House? Surely not.

02-27-2017 , 04:29 PM

#14041

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chippa58

I don't see impeachment as something that would tarnish the brand. Nixon would have been impeached if he hadn't resigned. Ford lost to Carter but the GOP regained the White House four years later and held it for 12 years. Clinton survived impeachment proceedings and Gore very narrowly lost.

Trump supporters are not likely to run to the Democratic Party if their boy is shot down. Regardless of whether Trump is impeached or beaten in a Republican primary, I think the bigger fear for the GOP is to have to deal with a Trump independent run for the White House in 2020.

If there are still elections in 2020 then I think everyone will take that as a win.

02-27-2017 , 04:32 PM

#14042

MyrnaFTW

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I dont see how trump is going to pass this scenario ,, let's increase defense even more ,rebuild all the bridges but cut corporate taxes and taxes on us plebes..

02-27-2017 , 04:39 PM

#14043

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW

I dont see how trump is going to pass this scenario ,, let's increase defense even more ,rebuild all the bridges but cut corporate taxes and taxes on us plebes..

Uh, you expect Republicans in Congress to vote against that? Is that because you think Republicans care about deficits?

02-27-2017 , 04:41 PM

#14044

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zimmer4141

I really wonder if all these people that claim our military is "underfunded and unprepared" actually believe their bull****, or just know they're lying to satisfy the interests they serve.

they are aware they are showing the world that this administration is oriented towards finding military solutions to domestic problems

02-27-2017 , 04:44 PM

#14045

BABARtheELEPHANT

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW

I dont see how trump is going to pass this scenario ,, let's increase defense even more ,rebuild all the bridges but cut corporate taxes and taxes on us plebes..

easy. He is going to negotiate the debt. He knows negotiation guys.

02-27-2017 , 04:47 PM

#14046

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BABARtheELEPHANT

easy. He is going to negotiate the debt. He knows negotiation guys.

he's gonna say, "hey china, we're not gonna pay this so, come and foreclose on our stuff if you think you can, btw we're spending 10% more on defense now"

02-27-2017 , 04:49 PM

#14047

sylar

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I wish I knew what to short ahead of the inevitable trump tweet about maybe not making our debt payments.

02-27-2017 , 05:00 PM

#14048

DVaut1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

I've been fed romanticized post-apocalyptic stories about the triumph of humanity my entire life. Everything from a dad taking a long walk with his son to a dude playing a flamethrower guitar. I don't know how it's all going to play out exactly, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be awesome.

That guy was the ****. If we're headed for a post-Trump apocalyptic hellscape, I am definitely investing literally whatever remaining durable wealth I have left in that Doof Warrior flamethrowing guitar.