His supporters would read this post and fist pump/start THE BRING IT ONS.

Sigh. It may very well be hopeless at this point.

I don't see impeachment as something that would tarnish the brand. Nixon would have been impeached if he hadn't resigned. Ford lost to Carter but the GOP regained the White House four years later and held it for 12 years. Clinton survived impeachment proceedings and Gore very narrowly lost.

Trump supporters are not likely to run to the Democratic Party if their boy is shot down. Regardless of whether Trump is impeached or beaten in a Republican primary, I think the bigger fear for the GOP is to have to deal with a Trump independent run for the White House in 2020.

I think we can all agree that there must be a thorough and complete investigation

These Iowans voted for Trump. Many of them are already disappointed.

Don't confuse Impeachment in the House (50%+1) with Conviction in the Senate (67 Senators).

Ryan isn't going to bring Articles of Impeachment against the President of his own party unless he knows he can get a Conviction in the Senate. He needs to know that the process would put down the rabid dog and not just mad it more mad.

Pence and the Cabinet invoking the 25th is literally a (legal) coup d'état. Again, remember that Trump can challenge it and Pence needs 2/3 of the House and 2/3 of the Senate to sustain it. Although, I can only see Pence (and Mattis et al) invoking this if they have a smoking gun.

Pretty much, the point is, to act against Trump, they have to know they have the ability to bring him down.

This article, about a long-time illegal alien pillar of a mostly white community in Southern Illinois who is about to be deported, is bleakly funny. You can sense most of the people quoted in the article being vaguely aware that this is their one Mexican friend they use to prove that they're not racist and that they're supposed to be standing up for him, but they just hate Latinos so much it's impossible for them to do a convincing job of it. For example:

or:

It's almost like undocumented people are real, hard-working people that cook our food, pick our crops, and build our houses every single ****ing day.

It's amusing when trumpkins, like avwal, have a moment of cognitive dissonance realizing that trump is awful and all brown people are not their enemy.

I mean did they just not see that Simpsons episode with Apu getting deported or what

thy tk ee jrr

Iowa is going to get rekt and will deserve it.

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/sta...56448622055424

Other than racism, or "Hillary is bad", or "liburls did this", perhaps the strongest explanation for Trump's election is simply that his supporters don't understand how government/the economy/foreign policy work, so they weren't able to see through his simple minded BS. In fact, it was a benefit because he ran on policies that mirrored their overly simplistic view of the world but that the non-poorly-educated know make no sense.

When people find their views aligned with the dumbs, they need to take a hard look and consider whether they should be counted among them.

Also, can Trump govern at all successfully if he's alienated what is arguably the most productive part of society. No business leader can hope to overtly support Trump when doing so alienates the bulk of white collar workers. People with actual power are going to demand that their voice be heard and deferred to at least as much as the olds and the uneducated.

****ING ******S

I disagree with this. It's not a matter of "if dumbs like me I'm doing something wrong". It's a matter of identity. Trump hasn't been saying a lot that's not in the realm of standard Republican trope for a while. His deportation idea is just Romney's self deportation. "Smart" Republicans have done dynamic scoring which is transparent BS with anyone with knowledge in order to show that cutting regulation and taxes will generate 4% growth.

Trump's just not smart enough to dress his ideas up in flowery language that seems pleasing to people with higher education. His straightforward talk, again because he's too dumb otherwise, appeals to people whose jobs and social circles don't depend on a grasp on flowery language to navigate their world and turns off people who would rather hear their BS in educated sounding prose.

Combine this with the right-wing media's demonization of "the liberal media" and "experts" and you have a political culture primed and ready for someone to run on a completely false version of reality and have a real chance to win.

Seriously we need to tell these people that liberals hate it when you mix bleach and ammonia

Not only this, but it is important to realize that there's a cultural and political backdrop here that fits with the broader narrative of rebellion against American elites.

The fact that education makes people more liberal has resulted in a number of conservative talking points. One is that education itself is biased -- i.e., it's not that knowing more makes you liberal, it's that educational institutions are liberal and are pushing their own analysis of the information. The other talking point is that education actually takes something away from you, and as a result the educated lack "common sense." This angle resonates with uneducated folks far more, because it provides them with a validation -- we're actually the smart ones. Trump is the manifestation of that validation. Here's a guy who is successful by the standards held up by elites, but who relies on common sense just like they do.

giving back the power to the states into the things i agree with the states , oh trump.

Do you disagree with this talking point?

Super late to this but no, I've never cited that source before. I rarely even check it out. I registered once to post a comment about something and so I get their daily roundup email. It's a pretty bad site even for the right-wing nuts, but it's always interesting to see how they are reacting to and talking about what is happening.

Well, instead of arguing with you over your generalization of me and my psychological preferences (which is false by the way), I'll say this:

Those people chose ignorance. They touted "their news" as the only true news. Now they're abandoning "their news" because it isn't "their news"-enough.

Feel free to replace "news" with "racist views"

I would be very watchful for Trump administration attacks on academic databases/scholarly journals and whatnot. These represent a collection of knowledge based on research, peer review, extensive study, etc. The very existence of these mostly well-sourced and very informative papers in academic databases throughout the world is a threat to the Trump administration and everything he's trying to accomplish.

I think that it's oversimplified.

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