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Originally Posted by seattlelou
The waiter could get harassed by pro-Trumpers or anti-Trumpers depending on how the story was perceived by the readers.
Or both, even. Anti-Trumpers think he's in tight with Trump... Pro-Trumpers think he's making fun of how Trump (and they) eat their steaks. He gets it from both sides.
I gotta question how well Trump is taking care of the guy if he's even talking, though.
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Originally Posted by .isolated
yeah, I agree. It seems like Trump's own idiocy is saving him so far. That Russia deal seems like it should be one of the biggest stories of my lifetime (I'm 36) and it seems to have gotten mostly swept under the rug from the media/news and feels like there will be no repercussions from it, no matter what role Trump or his aides played in it.
Part of the reason for the intelligence community leaks, in my opinion, was to make sure it didn't get buried/ignored. Mission accomplished, for the most part. It seems like they've been able to continue and the White House efforts to squash it have been resisted. They may need to steadily leak stuff to keep it going, but obviously they seem prepared to do so.
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
won't happen until 2019 at the soonest. GOP has announced they don't care how many laws Trump breaks, they have no intention of investigating him whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by fuluck414
I know it's not likely, but you're telling me if the CIA comes out with 100% hard evidence that Donald Trump and Russia are colluding, congress wouldn't act?
You guys are missing the key step... It's number four:
1. Investigation
2. Results
3. GOP-controlled Congress waits publicly, Republicans probably give some evasive answers about seeing all the evidence themselves. Behind closed doors they know what's right, but aren't sure they should do it politically.
4. Trump's approval rating goes to...?
5. If it's low enough, he gets impeached.
How low is low enough? A significant number of Republicans in Congress need to see enough of their supporters backing Articles of Impeachment to sign on. It has to be a significant enough number that Paul Ryan feels it's in the parties best interest to move, so probably more than the ~25 they'd need to get a simple majority vote. What's that number? I'm guessing it's around 50-60, and to get to that number, Trump would probably need to lose around 1/3 of his supporters since there aren't many swing districts. (If someone is in a 60% Republican district, they'd probably need to feel they were staring down 60-40 against to take action, or potentially facing a competitive primary challenge.)
So, you're probably looking for approval ratings in the low 30's to start making it a possibility. He's in the high 30s/low 40s now, so that's losing about 25% of his support and starting to get in the ballpark. The good news is, that makes it a possibility for almost anything to be the grounds for impeachment - emoluments clause, Russian stuff, or how he eats his steak. He's already impeachable, the polls just aren't there yet.
I have to THINK that hard evidence from our intelligence community would get him down to the low 30s or high 20s. Fox News wouldn't ignore it, and that still carries weight among the only half-crazy right wingers. Short of the Russian ties, I'm not sure what would get him into the territory where impeachment becomes realistic. Starting a really stupid war may or may not do it.
Last, but not least, 100% hard evidence on the Russian stuff could lead to immediate movement on the 25th Amendment. Honestly, if Pence put it in motion right now, I think it'd be within a vote or two either way given the vacancies and acting cabinet officials. But, if the evidence came out, the cabinet would probably immediately invoke the 25th and then let Congress sort it out when Trump fought back, then move on impeachment.