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02-26-2017 , 08:35 AM

#13851

DTD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by weeeez

1st nice thing he says to dems

RUINED

I take it that you're being ironic about the first comment.

It's not even news when the POTUS shows zero class. It's just expected now.

02-26-2017 , 08:43 AM

#13852

weeeez

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DTD

I take it that you're being ironic about the first comment.

I guess I could have split 1st tweet in 2 parts and write ruined in between but ffs it looked better like this.

02-26-2017 , 08:46 AM

#13853

DTD

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Jesus calm down with your "ffs" bs.

02-26-2017 , 10:40 AM

#13854

d2_e4

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This is a very informative (and rather worrying) article.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...p-nigel-farage

Quote:

Facebook was the key to the entire campaign, Wigmore explained. A Facebook ‘like’, he said, was their most “potent weapon”. “Because using artificial intelligence, as we did, tells you all sorts of things about that individual and how to convince them with what sort of advert. And you knew there would also be other people in their network who liked what they liked, so you could spread. And then you follow them. The computer never stops learning and it never stops monitoring.”

Quote:

“The danger of not having regulation around the sort of data you can get from Facebook and elsewhere is clear. With this, a computer can actually do psychology, it can predict and potentially control human behaviour. It’s what the scientologists try to do but much more powerful. It’s how you brainwash someone. It’s incredibly dangerous.["]

Quote:

...a quote by Marshall McLuhan, the great information theorist of the 60s. “World War III will be a guerrilla information war,” it says. “With no divisions between military and civilian participation.”

By that definition we’re already there.

02-26-2017 , 10:41 AM

#13855

jalfrezi

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I've never understood the attraction of FB.

02-26-2017 , 11:14 AM

#13856

DTD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

I've never understood the attraction of FB.

It's obv a good tool for keeping in contact with people and searching out old school friends etc.

The "news" aspect is something to be careful of for me. One person posted a like or something on the "Shrewsbury against the Islamification of Britain" page so it popped up in my feed. Honestly, if you want to lower your view of the human race then spend a few mins looking through that page. I have to unfollow people like that for my own sanity.

02-26-2017 , 11:30 AM

#13857

Csaba

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Just had a look at that Shrewsbury page. Bunch of idiots banging on about Trump's 12 billion reduction in the deficit.

Jesus wept.

02-26-2017 , 11:34 AM

#13858

jalfrezi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DTD

I don't need my view lowered any more thanks - posting in P v8.8 is quite enough to do that - and I don't need people profiling my private life.

02-26-2017 , 11:36 AM

#13859

Trolly McTrollson

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02-26-2017 , 11:38 AM

#13860

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d2_e4

This is a very informative (and rather worrying) article.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...p-nigel-farage

This stuff has been met with extreme skepticism from some quarters, generally along the lines that they're doing the same things everybody else is doing and pretending it's special, aided by a couple lucky results.

02-26-2017 , 11:43 AM

#13861

surfinillini

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Csaba

Just had a look at that Shrewsbury page. Bunch of idiots banging on about Trump's 12 billion reduction in the deficit.

Jesus wept.

WTF does 12 billion matter in the real of a 3.8 trillion dollar budget.

He's saved the government the equivalent of a pair of shoes.

The administration was supposed to submit their budget already but that's way behind schedule. Well oiled machine foh.

02-26-2017 , 11:52 AM

#13862

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Csaba

Just had a look at that Shrewsbury page. Bunch of idiots banging on about Trump's 12 billion reduction in the deficit.

Jesus wept.

So sick you can reduce the deficit by that much with zero financial legislation. Magical.

02-26-2017 , 11:57 AM

#13863

m_reed05

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Not sure if posted in here yet, but Spicer got wrecked on Twitter yesterday by Tapper.

Also NYT reported that McMaster doesn't have walk-in privileges in the Oval Office, wtf?

02-26-2017 , 11:59 AM

#13864

m_reed05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

So sick you can reduce the deficit by that much with zero financial legislation. Magical.

You would be amazed then at what Obama did in his last month.

02-26-2017 , 12:04 PM

#13865

Riverman

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Tapper has been phenomenal. Disbelieftapper.jpg gets me every time.

02-26-2017 , 12:28 PM

#13866

Paul McSwizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JacktheDumb

It just sticks out that they won the popular vote in 6 out of 7 elections but they didnt win 6 of those election. What i mean with this is that it needs more then just the hope of a majority of people with a good will. The fight for democratic rights in the USA often enough seems like a losing battle. I know Americans think they are the beacon of democracy but in reality the USA isnt the top contender, it is ranked as a flawed democracy.

Even if Trump would step back tomorrow. How much would you trust a Pence lead congress to better lifes for the people instead of enriching itself?

Trump is just a symptom, the USA does have a systematic problem that is looming since a long time and just becomes more obvious then ever, money governs way more then the people.

Me IRL:

02-26-2017 , 12:31 PM

#13867

DTD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by surfinillini

I'm not great at economics, but the main point is probably that this is nothing to do with his policies.

02-26-2017 , 12:33 PM

#13868

DTD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle

Me IRL:

I really respect the way that "Symptom" was made to fit on that placard, despite looking a bit dubious with a couple of letters to go. That is just the type of "can do" attitude that the US needs more of imo.

02-26-2017 , 12:35 PM

#13869

jalfrezi

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And exemplary forward planning.

02-26-2017 , 12:35 PM

#13870

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle

Me IRL:

i stole markksman's avatar and put it on a sign the day after he made it-

02-26-2017 , 12:47 PM

#13871

markksman

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Lol nice

02-26-2017 , 01:02 PM

#13872

Paul McSwizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DTD

02-26-2017 , 01:13 PM

#13873

ScreaminAsian

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One protestor held a sign sporting the Madslogan, "Up with mini-skirts."

We all had a good laugh, even though I didn't quite understand it.

02-26-2017 , 01:38 PM

#13874

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

The excerpts I quoted didn't really do the full breadth of the article justice. Even if the efficacy and/or complexity of the Cambridge Analytics stuff is overblown, I think the general point that the far right is operating a well funded and very effective propaganda machine which the centre and left have been unable to counteract is a valid one.

02-26-2017 , 01:50 PM

#13875

Trolly McTrollson

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I guess we knew this already, but Spicey is confirmed mad:

Quote:

Last week, after Spicer became aware that information had leaked out of a planning meeting with about a dozen of his communications staffers, he reconvened the group in his office to express his frustration over the number of private conversations and meetings that were showing up in unflattering news stories, according to sources in the room.

Upon entering Spicer’s second floor office, staffers were told to dump their phones on a table for a “phone check," to prove they had nothing to hide.

Spicer, who consulted with White House counsel Don McGahn before calling the meeting, was accompanied by White House lawyers in the room, according to multiple sources. There, he explicitly warned staffers that using texting apps like Confide -- an encrypted and screenshot-protected messaging app that automatically deletes texts after they are sent -- and Signal, another encrypted messaging system, was a violation of the Federal Records Act, according to multiple sources in the room.

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