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02-25-2017 , 04:35 PM

#13751

ASAP17

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You guys saw a writer from the Boston Magazine predicted the future this morning? Or maybe it's because everyone knows no one watches more cable news than Trump...

!!!

Then of course 32 minutes later...

02-25-2017 , 04:57 PM

#13752

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHip41

this has nothing to do with President Trump

Everything has to do with drumpf.

Excess labor made redundant due to automation will be redirected to cover the shortage from deporting browns. Some will get depressed and turn to drugs. They will be occupancy drivers for the soon-to-be booming prison industry. There's your safety net, snowflakes.

02-25-2017 , 05:28 PM

#13753

renodoc

Casino Olympics Champion

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Spoiler:

02-25-2017 , 05:41 PM

#13754

cuserounder

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So did it take Trump 32 minutes to type the tweet?

Did he attempt to fact check it? Seems unlikely...

Or was he behind on the DVR? Yeah, that must be it.

02-25-2017 , 05:44 PM

#13755

Minirra

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 1,672

How bad are things when even Glenn Beck doesn't seem so bad anymore

02-25-2017 , 05:46 PM

#13756

ScreaminAsian

For President

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cuserounder

So did it take Trump 32 minutes to type the tweet?

Did he attempt to fact check it? Seems unlikely...

Or was he behind on the DVR? Yeah, that must be it.

the intelligence community put the cable tv in the white house on 30 minute delay to give them a head start on events that would really throw trump off the edge. they told trump it was the next generation TiVo and he said ok

02-25-2017 , 05:47 PM

#13757

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suitedjustice

Now is the time to remember your throwaway email and take Mr. Trump's new survey.

https://gop.com/trump-first-month-approval-survey/

You know how upset he gets when these go against him.

Question 25 is awesome..."select as many as apply" but it's radio button instead of checkboxes so you can only select one

Just the best people

02-25-2017 , 05:58 PM

#13758

ElMastermind

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Trump tweets

"I will not be attending the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner this year. Please wish everyone well and have a great evening!"

02-25-2017 , 05:59 PM

#13759

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

I tried to look up productivity statistics, but the Bureau of Labor Statistics is down.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-...us-economy.htm

When it comes back up I expect it to say something about Trump making America great again.

I'd respond to this now, but it's a tangent, and I feel like you left me hanging on a similar topic where you pointed out that hours worked per person has decreased, but I replied that it hasn't because it should account for all people not just employed people and that adding women to the workforce in the last 40 years has dwarfed any decreases per person with a job. The general point being that people in general are working harder for less and that's especially true of the middle class.

The increase in labor force participation rate is actually smaller proportionately than the drop in hours worked. Something like 59% for the late postwar period compared to 63% now. The drop in hours worked is 10+%.

02-25-2017 , 06:04 PM

#13760

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

From the BLS

"The labor force participation rate is the percentage of the population that is either employed or unemployed (that is, either working or actively seeking work)"

It doesn't include people who aren't working or seeking work.

02-25-2017 , 06:07 PM

#13761

uDevil

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ElMastermind

Trump tweets

"I will not be attending the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner this year. Please wish everyone well and have a great evening!"

I don't know how to feel about that.

02-25-2017 , 06:08 PM

#13762

Paul D

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Originally Posted by microbet

It does include people who aren't working.

02-25-2017 , 06:09 PM

#13763

2OutsNoProb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by surfinillini

This subset of the American population has really taken a defeatist standpoint.

Unwillingness to learn, adapt, and move into different fields of work.

Now it's festered into the ultimate social blame game. I don't have this because of that minority over there. Or I don't have these benefits because of that religion there. It's a combination of poverty, racism, and xenophobia.

Mr. 55 year old man in rural America with no education or willingness to adapt: You are not predestined to be successful. And you sure aren't superior to those who do work hard to become successful. (Whites or non-white).

And some don't realize how much racism (myself included until recently) still remains in this country. Brown vs. the board of education was only 1954, and not until the mid 70s did the civil rights movement really show results.

I guess I was naive to think we were progressing as a nation, now it's clear we're going back a generation, possibly even two.

Love this post. Well done.

The one thing I would say is that we're probably not ****ed for two generations, perhaps not even one, because of the sheer number of olds who watch FoxNews that'll die off over the next 15-20 years.

02-25-2017 , 06:09 PM

#13764

microbet

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Who aren't working AND aren't seeking work. Sorry.

02-25-2017 , 06:12 PM

#13765

sylar

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Quote:

Originally Posted by surfinillini

There ain't and 'ever been no snowflake quite like the American exceptionalism.

02-25-2017 , 06:13 PM

#13766

ElMastermind

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

I don't know how to feel about that.

I'm inclined to think that a move away from access based journalism toward completely unbiased (as much as is possible given the facts) and even at times confrontational journalism is a good thing. While I enjoyed the WHCD's I've viewed (all of them since Colbert spoke in 2006), it is not some institution in need of protection.

However, it would be quite entertaining to watch Trump get roasted beyond belief and see him fire back. SAD!

02-25-2017 , 06:15 PM

#13767

LostOstrich

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presumably they can still roast him in his absence? Just stick an orange balloon with an angry face in his seat and fire away.

02-25-2017 , 06:18 PM

#13768

Paul D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Who aren't working AND aren't seeking work. Sorry.

Not nitting you, but the BLS didn't define that precisely either. It can include people who aren't working and seeking work for period of six months since they last worked. And that can skew data. Which I think was your original point?

02-25-2017 , 06:18 PM

#13769

Hopey

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ElMastermind

Trump tweets

"I will not be attending the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner this year. Please wish everyone well and have a great evening!"

He's at war with the press, and can't handle being made fun of. Of course he's not going.

02-25-2017 , 06:19 PM

#13770

Minirra

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Quote:

Originally Posted by surfinillini

Said it before, but the capacity for all of the awful things that people can do is still alive and well. There's nothing different about our DNA, it's just cultural norms in society that hold behaviors and beliefs in check. Everything that people did in Nazi Germany or the Middle Ages or Colonial US, we're still as wired for that today. That's something I don't think anybody can afford to forget.

That's pretty bleak, but on the other side of that there will always be people that favor reason and justice. They won't always win but they're there.

02-25-2017 , 06:21 PM

#13771

sylar

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Samantha Bee is hosting a competing roast anyway. He's smart to skip it since he'll lose the ratings war by about 3mil.

02-25-2017 , 06:23 PM

#13772

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

The general point was about the entrance of women into the workforce over the last 40 years, so mostly about people who have not been looking for work for more than six months.

02-25-2017 , 06:23 PM

#13773

einbert

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Quote:

That's pretty bleak, but on the other side of that there will always be people that favor reason and justice. They won't always win but they're there.

That's why it's important to remember that Team Grownup did win the popular vote by 2,900,000 and has won the pop. vote in 6 out of the last 7 elections. The Republican agenda, whether they are able to enact all of it or not, is seriously unpopular. There's a lot of reason to be hopeful going forward, especially seeing people finally waking up and being active in democracy after the election.

02-25-2017 , 06:23 PM

#13774

surfinillini

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ElMastermind

I think the most frightening element of Trump's anti-media rhetoric is that simple and TRUE facts are discarded as lies (aka FAKE). Ignoring negative press is one thing, but to call the free press the "opposition party" and "enemy of the American people" is quite opposite of the truth.

Dissent is historically American.

If any of you haven't read Sinclair Lewis' book It Can't Happen Here I suggest you take the time and do.

He said it best:

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross."

02-25-2017 , 06:26 PM

#13775

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LostOstrich

presumably they can still roast him in his absence? Just stick an orange balloon with an angry face in his seat and fire away.

and then have a BIG SURPRISE when the president shows up! and they play hail to the chief, and alec baldwin walks on to give a cringeworthy rebuttal like at the al smith dinner where he accuses the press of treason and starts a "lock them up" chant in a dead silent room

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