Reduce the mandatory work week is one way.

Lol, of course not. Hobbyist is a really, really low bar to clear. I consider myself a hobbyist on the search for exoplanets for example. Its not hard or time consuming to read a handful of papers a year and go to a talk or two.

It's getting harder to avoid the "Trump as 3rd world dictator" trope when he's calling for pro government rallies.

For sure. Despite my arguments in favor of socialist/anarchist policies, I'm not really a socialist and definitely not a top down big state socialist. I'd prefer the gubmint dealt more subtly with some carrots and sticks rather than just mandating how many hours people can work.

Max,

I will stick with 'Extreme Hobbyist' in the future

Except the government doesn't mandate someone's work week hours.

Did you read the post I was responding to? It was quoted.

Yes, and that post was silly.

What's the ****ing point of that post anyway?

Can you explain how you interpreted my post as a claim that government does (as in currently) mandate someone's work week hours?

This subset of the American population has really taken a defeatist standpoint.

Unwillingness to learn, adapt, and move into different fields of work.

Now it's festered into the ultimate social blame game. I don't have this because of that minority over there. Or I don't have these benefits because of that religion there. It's a combination of poverty, racism, and xenophobia.

Mr. 55 year old man in rural America with no education or willingness to adapt: You are not predestined to be successful. And you sure aren't superior to those who do work hard to become successful. (Whites or non-white).

And some don't realize how much racism (myself included until recently) still remains in this country. Brown vs. the board of education was only 1954, and not until the mid 70s did the civil rights movement really show results.

I guess I was naive to think we were progressing as a nation, now it's clear we're going back a generation, possibly even two.

So then you were responding the Huehue, but quoting me?

This is a sad post, microbet

Or don't call out people in fields where its so easy to have better qualifications and know more than you do. Could be shortend to "don't call people out" in your case.

Anyone else worried about Skynet?

Why are you addressing me in particular about that?

Don't be so bitter M dog. I know a good bit about the field. I communicate with people who most certainly know more about it than me, you and Sylar combined. I am confident in my posts on the topic that thinking it is going to take over 20 years to automate the shipping industry is absurd. Sorry buddy

Sad but accurate?

Responding to both. The govt. shouldn't have a role in determining work week hours other than what qualifies as overtime. Some people willingly work long hours.

Bad joke, sorry

Yes

Can you guys STFU now and get the F out of the thread? K tnx. One more derail post and you will get a time out.

That's conforms exactly with what I said, but I could swear your first response* was disagreeable.

"Except the government doesn't mandate someone's work week hours."

It isn't a preference thing like you implied. It is actually what limited government is about.

I guess this is what happens when progressive thought is removed by an administration and all we have leftover is a small cabal of Christian Right white supremacists who value nationalism and economic sovereignty over globalism and enlightenment.

No problem. I wish I got the joke. If you're joking that "Unwillingness to learn, adapt, and move into different fields of work" describes me, I'll get defensive.

I was in housing development during a housing boom in the early 90s, computer programming/web development during the dot com boom in the late 90s early 00s, poker player during the mid 00s, and solar right when it started taking off.

Damn, I should be rich.

But Huehue seemed to me to be suggesting a government mandate on hours worked. Since I quoted him in my post you couldn't have missed it. So, I did not "imply it was a preference thing", I argued that I'd prefer not to adopt Huehue's prescription.