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02-24-2017 , 06:00 PM

#13451

Riverman

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Jake Tapper obliterated the administration today. Dude is must watch TV.

02-24-2017 , 06:00 PM

#13452

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Autocratic

I don't want to downplay every minor step toward a more authoritarian government, because they can aggregate to something truly dangerous and obviously there is symbolic meaning to shutting out the press in this administration. But this just isn't a big deal IMO.

Like does anyone actually think that the people benefit from hearing whatever bull**** the White House has to offer? No actual journalism has ever emerged from a White House press briefing FFS.

Normally, I'd agree. But he's doing this to the organizations that are most likely to show a Russia-Trump collaboration. He's doing it to discredit CNN, NY Times etc. in the eyes of the voters in order to de-legitimatize them when they eventually provide the smoking gun that will bring him down.

I mean, there's a reason he said no to CNN and yes to Breitbart lol. It's not like saying no to ESPN or the Cartoon Network.

02-24-2017 , 06:00 PM

#13453

thethethe

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I'd love for Trump and Murdoch to get into an geriatric sociopath bitch fight.

02-24-2017 , 06:01 PM

#13454

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

trump cited a source as to why obama wasn't born in this country

he did not name him

He's saying the news is making sources up because that's what he did. Whole campaign he claimed opposition was doing what he is and they're still doing that.

Still wish they just used bannon as a source or a fake name that would get a 6 year old to think it's him.

he knows about fake news because he personally produced piles of it for decades

02-24-2017 , 06:02 PM

#13455

will1530

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Lol @ the actual false flag troll at cpac. Well played.

02-24-2017 , 06:04 PM

#13456

slidey1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Autocratic

I view this sort of like the parallel in regard to Trump coming out swinging HAM about the size of the inauguration crowds. If you're going to make such a huge issue of something so trivial, how does that set the stage for really important issues? Same thing here. Nobody gives a **** really about what minor things the WH may be talking about today, but the fact that a precedent is being set that it's ok to bar legitimate (or non-preferred) media from reporting on it is what is frightening.

02-24-2017 , 06:08 PM

#13457

uDevil

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Maybe Trump would be happy with pseudonyms when naming sources. You know, like his buddy "Jim" that gave him that scoop on how Paris is a disaster. Or John Miller, who spread the news about what a stud Trump was.

02-24-2017 , 06:19 PM

#13458

SuperSwag

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Spice kept repeating over and over to tough questions "Trump believes in states rights". But he let it let slip that they are going to enforce laws against rec marijuana.

this administration is a disaster. Yeah Obama did it too I know but the government just can't get over their boner for marijuana enforcement. It is absolutely insane how well reefer madness worked on baby boomers.

So what exactly are these states rights? probably just guns i guess. Republican mantra, ban everything except guns.

02-24-2017 , 06:23 PM

#13459

sylar

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Oh I should apologize for the snark in that post, I might have just created four Trump voters

I am docking your protest pay $50 until you can produce evidence that you punched four nazi's to make up for it.

02-24-2017 , 06:23 PM

#13460

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSwag

Guns, making it harder for poor people (specifically the non-white variety) to vote, and ****ing over LGBT people seem to be the main ones.

02-24-2017 , 06:27 PM

#13461

prana

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DHS analysis found no evidence of extra threat posed by travel-ban nations: report

02-24-2017 , 06:30 PM

#13462

FlyWf

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That "Donald Trump will stand up to businesses" piece from after the Carrier stunt has aged like a ice cream sandwich left in the sun

02-24-2017 , 06:37 PM

#13463

TimmayB

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With certain press outlets being banned from The White House we are now officially at 14/14 on The 14 Characteristic of Fascism list. Feels bad, man. Unless of course you are a fascist, which is your right here in America.

02-24-2017 , 06:40 PM

#13464

Riverman

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"States Rights" = ****ing minorities. 'Twas ever thus.

02-24-2017 , 06:44 PM

#13465

Max Cut

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02-24-2017 , 06:44 PM

#13466

wheatrich

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so in fake news

Fox News had a guy on claiming he was swedish defense and national security advisor

sweden's response was the swedish version of

"who the **** is that?"

Turns out he's just a swedish guy who's been living in not sweden for a long time and bildt isn't his name--he just uses bildt b/c some big swede guy I don't care to look it up is named that and it sounds better. No wonder he's a trump fan.

02-24-2017 , 06:45 PM

#13467

shpanko

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Tsao

CNN just had Ari Fleisher on who said that it is standard for White Houses to do this, it was done all the time under Bush and Obama, stop hyperventilating.

CNN host said "But there was no briefing today"

Fleisher: "Because the President gave a speech, that's also standard."

CNN host: But what about him calling the media the enemy of the people

So CNN host didn't really counter Fleisher's statements that this happened all the time under Bush/Obama, and I don't know enough to know if that's true or not, but she totally accepted it.

Thoughts?

Edit to add: Fleisher did say what was unique about this was the current Press Secretary's involvement, in that usually it is not a good idea for the Press Secretary to be involved, as it damages his/her relationship with the press corps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Tsao

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Tsao

Right, Fleisher's point was that this is standard practice, happened all the time under previous administrations in non-formal briefings (which is why it matters if it is the formal daily briefing or not, to answer your first question).

CNN host had no rebuttal to that...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

Exec editor of NYT finds it unusual.

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Tsao

You think Fleisher was lying to cover up for Trump?

He also wasn't saying just Obama, he said it was done under Bush as well.

Tsao you are a massive hypocrite. You flame others for not standing up earlier for constitutional rights protections and now bend over backwards to defend the Trump administration infringing on the 1st amendment. It's shameful, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

02-24-2017 , 06:47 PM

#13468

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSwag

I believe pot arrests and convictions are and will be disproportionately non-whites.

02-24-2017 , 06:49 PM

#13469

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

Link?

02-24-2017 , 06:50 PM

#13470

pvn

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OMG

02-24-2017 , 06:53 PM

#13471

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02-24-2017 , 06:53 PM

#13472

13ball

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That is amazing.

edit: was referring to pvn, but Max's post is also amazing.

02-24-2017 , 06:57 PM

#13473

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Tsao

So weird that Trump's directive for the DOJ to go after states with legal pot isn't more upsetting to Tsao(or, for that matter HastenDan), given that he was a bigtime "Ron Paul can't be racist, he opposes the drug war unlike your savior Obummer" dudes back in the day.

Weird that these committed defenders of liberty mostly seem to get fired up about imagined liberal and lamestream media hypocrisy in criticizing Daddy Trump instead of, you know, anything Trump does.

02-24-2017 , 06:57 PM

#13474

markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thethethe

BBC were also banned.

Lolololol

02-24-2017 , 06:59 PM

#13475

shpanko

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Weird that these committed defenders of liberty mostly seem to get fired up about imagined liberal and lamestream media hypocrisy in criticizing Daddy Trump instead of, you know, anything Trump does.

This +infinity. This **** is infuriating.

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