American political tradition is a form of capital for Donald Trump. It is to be degraded when expedient.

Well, like I said, it's not getting the chance to have Spicer feed you some bull**** answers that's the problem here. The problem is the administrations animosity with the press and their authoritarianism.

As far as journalists without access go, there have been some of note who were completely shut out by official sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I._F._Stone

The short-term impact of this is relatively low, if they did it for a long period of time it would be pretty significant... If there's a one hour briefing, and you have two questions each from:

NY Times
Washington Post
LA Times
AP
Reuters
NBC
ABC
CBS
CNN
MSNBC
FOX News

and also some from...

Breitbart
Politico
Christian Science Monitor
etc etc

The more of the first list you block out, the more the second group (the more partisan group) gets to set the narrative.

However, it won't slow down investigative journalism at all. If anything, it could speed it up.

You're right. It was outside of your quotes and I mistook it for being something you said. Don't let that go to your head though, you're wrong about the point in general.

I like how I give Sew a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why the CNN host didn't press the issue and he just skips over it to argue something else.

RV, she went on to play a video of Trump saying "fake news media is the enemy of the American people, and the media is going to quote me saying all media is the enemy, but I'm saying fake news media, they'll leave that out", followed by asking Fleisher "so what do you think about Trump calling the media the enemy of the American people"

Yes, integrity abound right there.

So yeah maybe you're right? What did you want me to say to that "Could be RV, could be" kool

do you use the "go to next unread post" link to follow this thread?

fleischer is talking about the fact that presidents have met with select group of reporters before at private meetings (duh). they have never banned certain reporters from a gaggle

conflating the two is dishonest but par for the course

In todays climate, Woodward and Bernstein would be labelled fake news and ignored by the senate.

Missed this is all the PRESS hubbub



brb typing out resignation letter

They fall for it every time. Let's pick the narrative the other side has a counter argument (even though it's not an apples to apples one) rather than one that makes them look pure evil and they don't!

$1500/wk stat might backfire just b/c a bunch of them are gonna be like where do I sign up?

Trump called several mainstream news organizations "enemies of the American people" and this principled libertarian here (lol) is primarily concerned that liberals aren't giving Trump enough benefit of the doubt

Oh I should apologize for the snark in that post, I might have just created four Trump voters

You're right fella, he's talking about all that tripe folk post on facebook and not the "msm", fox&friends excepted, at all. Scintillating example of Trump's integrity right there.

LOL dude you are the one asking why didn't she press the issue. I gave an explanation as to why she may not have.

I don't want to downplay every minor step toward a more authoritarian government, because they can aggregate to something truly dangerous and obviously there is symbolic meaning to shutting out the press in this administration. But this just isn't a big deal IMO.

Like does anyone actually think that the people benefit from hearing whatever bull**** the White House has to offer? No actual journalism has ever emerged from a White House press briefing FFS.

You can call out Trump's attitude vs. the media as dishonest and self serving, but people trying to make it a First Amendment issue are way off base.

The First Amendment does not guarantee the press access to the President or anyone else. It also does not give the press an innate right to be believed or not criticized.

Trump could hypothetically kick every single member of the press out of the White House and say he's not going to hold single press conference or give a single press briefing to anyone his entire administration and it wouldn't be a violation of anyone's First Amendment rights.

Until Trump begins trying to actively prosecute or shut down a news organization, it's not a First Amendment issue.

It's really hard to understand. The POTUS is calling the NYT, NBC, CBS, CNN "enemies of the people". Lenin's phrase. The idea that any American, let alone a libertarian, would have this attitude is insane.

lol at everyone misspelling Tsao's name. Another reason to hate the lib -- I mean kool-headedly voice his genuine concerns for the future of the anti-Trump movement.

I literally haven't seen anyone do this.

I don't think anyone in this last discussion mentioned the first amendment.

But, arguing with you is certainly not going to be productive. It's disgusting how much you hate freedom and are ****ing up my country.

But not from you, dip****. Not ever from you. In the abstract, sure, you'll grudgingly concede it's bad. But each and ****ing every actual example of police brutality has been you whining about how the people complaining are calling something racist that couldn't be and also the black guy was no angel and all the rest of that ****.

Then they should stop being so ****ing racist

Don't you dare try to lecture people who give a ****, Lestat. You aren't on our side and it's pretty ****ing clear you won't ever be on our side.

Your whining to be nicer to racists is and always has been a transparent attempt to convince people to be nicer to you when you do insanely racist **** like blame the increasing(but nowhere near the worst it's ever been, wtf, no ****ing skepticism at all when you hit up Breitbart) black white wage gap on OBAMA.

suing the daily mail for $150M doesn't count?

using the same lawyer hulk hogan used to shut down gawker

It's almost as if he didn't say in a speech this freaking morning:

“They shouldn’t be allowed to use sources unless they use somebody’s name”

trump cited a source as to why obama wasn't born in this country

he did not name him

He's saying the news is making sources up because that's what he did. Whole campaign he claimed opposition was doing what he is and they're still doing that.

Still wish they just used bannon as naming their source or a fake name that would get a 6 year old to think it's him. I guess they're scared of being called fake when at this point who cares.