If Harris hypothetically wanted a wall, I'd call her a nutter too. A wall is simply racism objectified and politicized and if the Dems bend one inch on the messaging, they are a bunch of spineless pussies. They should continue to make Trump own the shutdown. I feel for the workers affected, but the Dems only get more leverage in 5 days.

lol businessdude posts an article not backing up his claims and then reads to the end and sees half truth so he takes that to mean let’s divide $300 million in half, now the cost is $150 million, jfc you’re an idiot

I think allthecheese’s main point was the cost of the wall is irrelevant. The symbolism is what matters. It’s a good point that shouldn’t be forgotten when the gutless dems give trump $2.5B and pretend it’s a victory.

If we built a wall around each person's home it would totally solve crime too.

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Peter stroked a page of Lisa & all the text disappeared..... ��

I feel stupid this didn't occur to me. I read the article and there was something about ~$47M and I was wondering where he got the $150M.

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Lol half true equals 300m divided by 2. Chessmate libcucks.

The endgame of this presidency, imo, is when Con Jr, Ivanka and Jared get indicted. I believe he works out the only deal he gets accomplished, immunity from prosecution of himself and his family in return for resignation.

Since the dead 8-year old boy has already vanished from the news, I thought I'd take a look back now that more of the story seems to have come out.

From what I can tell, he and his father were bounced around in the system for several days after being caught. By the time he was taken to the hospital after being identified as looking sick, he'd probably been having symptoms for a couple of days, although those symptoms could have been something as low grade as a sore throat and low grade fever.

It's hard for me to see how a flu test wasn't done of the first visit to the ED - in flu season, our pediatric area of our ED does a screen on pretty much every kid with fever/cough/sore throat - not because it's necessarily going to change what we do, but because we want to separate the flu positive goats from the sheep. Influenza is CRAZY contagious. But knowing that the kid had influenza could have prompted starting antivirals IF symptom onset was 48 hrs. or less from the time of the visit - after 48 hrs., the antivirals do nothing (and some studies suggest they may actually be harmful)

Additionally, knowing a patient has influenza should prompt a more careful evaluation for associated bacterial pneumonia, which is the most common catastrophic problem associated with influenza - it's not at all clear why a small subset of patients get this, but if they do (especially in kids/elderly/immunocompromised patients) things can go south VERY quickly.

Sadly, once the kid was discharged after the initial ER visit he was likely doomed - and may have been even had he been admitted. Last year, 185 pediatric patients in the US (at a minimum) died of influenza - about 80% of them hadn't been vaccinated, and it's a pretty good bet this boy hadn't been (i'm assuming that because they had likely been traveling for some time - most countries are better than the US about vaccinating kids for a lot of things, but I'd guess he got missed - and he could have been one of the unlucky 20%, anyway.

Despite being really common, influenza is still poorly understood in a lot of ways - and one of the biggest things we don't understand is why a very small subset of patients die suddenly and dramatically from it. I attended a conference a couple of years ago where a researcher argued that some people have an atypical response to the flu antigens which triggers a cytokine storm - basically, your immune system goes bat**** crazy and attacks your own self - which explained why the 1918 pandemic killed millions of young "healthy" people - in older people (like me) the immune system just couldn't amp up enough to be dangerous. But no one really knows.

Every year we have a couple of kids and a couple of young (18-30's) people die of influenza despite hyperaggresive treament. A few more stagger out of the ICU and go home after a couple of weeks in the hospital. This happens at EVERY hospital in the US.
Sadly, I'd guess this kid was one of those patients.

Get your flu shot.

MM MD

I missed the point where BD got talked talked down from billions to millions. Either that or factors of 1000 no big deal. Stars or dollars.

Introducing shaky-cam fight choreography forever makes it in the bad movie category and puts your opinion on movies on, um, shaky ground.

Are we surprised that gaslighting Trumpers are dumb? We shouldn't be, because they all are.

Anecdotal story. Over Christmas had more than a few beers with my BIL who is a (by today's standards) moderate Republican. He starts into this both-sides bs about how the radicals on both sides are causing the issues. I point out that on one side the radicals are nazis and white supremecists and on the other side the "radicals" are people who think that abortion should be freely available, we shouldn't use fossil fuels, we shouldn't eat meat etc. and point out that there is no moral equivalence. He of course gets mad and so I ask him to name some examples of equivalence between the literal nazi's on the far right and their companions on the left. Here are his attempts:

1)The people who went after the cake shop who wouldn't bake cakes for gays
2)The people at Berkley who protested Milo. He said many were bussed in by Soros
3)The people who went after POOR BABY KAV
4)The people going after Christmas music like Baby It's Cold Outside

Yes in his mind those people are just as bad as nazis and KKK. My wife and I literally laughed in his face.

I mean jesus ****ing christ. I asked him how many of these wonderful ideas he got from Fox News and AM radio and according to him none but I'm guessing 100%. I realize this isn't news to any of us but when this is your "reasonable" republican we are beyond ****ed.

A wall is not inherently anti immigration. On the Weeds podcast, they talk about the "big beautiful wall" in San Diego, which has a big beautiful door through which lots of people and goods flow. People seem okay with it or that's the impression that they give.

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There are no reasonable Republicans. Zero.

The wall is stupid and the discussion around it is stupid as well. There have been several studies and even a documentary film about fencing the border, it's all been shown to be a colossal waste of money, and that's been known for decades. The problem is that rubes still think it's a good idea and so R's have been holding sensible immigration policy hostage to 'border security' since forever, claiming nonsense like that they'll be happy to tackle immigration reform, but only 'after the southern border is secure'. Which of course is nonsense because as long as even one illegal crossing happens or one gram of drugs gets through they'll always be able to claim that it's not secure 'enough' and demand more.

So then you have Trump come along and enter the primary, and if we remember back to that happy time we also remember that his campaign was basically a joke at first -- right up until he started on about the wall. Which is fine of course if you want to appeal to idiots, but remember it's not like Trump and his campaign team did a bunch of research and studying and came up with a solution to a decades long problem. No, he basically just pulled the whole thing out of his butt and now that's the hill he's willing to die on. So fine, let him. But please stop with pretending like it's a notion that makes even an iota of sense, because it just doesn't.

I don't think there should be a border at all, but hey I love freedom/am an extremist. But, the way regulations work is that to a certain point they can be effective. People will get around them sometimes if it's easy. They'll comply if it's not too hard. At a certain point if there's enough demand not met and it's hard enough to get around restrictions there will be a black market which will cause new problems. So, while I'm against the big beautiful wall with a big beautiful door, it can have some effect - and actually I'm fine with inspections of fruit and stuff like that to limit the spread of pests which is somewhat effective and does require some border control, but in CA we do that for people coming from other states as well (or at least we used to - I haven't noticed that for a while). And also so...if legal immigration is easy enough there wouldn't be enough demand for illegal immigration for a black market to be worth it.

I'm not claiming that the article is hard to find. I'm claiming that you most definitely did not read it before you started throwing that 300 billion number around. At best, you found it and read it after people started criticizing you but before I posted the article.

At this point, the smart money is on you still not having read the article if you honestly believe that it supports a number of 150 billion.

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Grunch posting but looking like all federal workers will soon be Democrats...

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No no, it's been proven "half-wrong", so you just take that number he pulled out of his ass before and chop it in half. It's simple math bro.

Come on baaaaby, you know I don't want to kill children you just don't give me any other choice when you act out like you do.

We used to worry about politicians being beholden to donors and corporate interests, but we have somehow ended up with our chief executive beholden to foreign powers. This ****er cares naught for the common man he supposedly espouses but only about his own financial interests.