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02-24-2017 , 04:27 PM
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02-24-2017 , 04:33 PM
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That pisses me off like almost nothing else. Guys come to the US bringing some actual needed skills and contributes, and this happens. Plus they're Indians, who the hell hates Indians.

Meanwhile the shooter is a 51-year-old "desktop support specialist" which most likely means a low-skilled $12/hr job that contributes next to nothing.
No need to bring asinine elitism into this.
02-24-2017 , 04:34 PM
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CNN just had Ari Fleisher on who said that it is standard for White Houses to do this, it was done all the time under Bush and Obama, stop hyperventilating.

CNN host said "But there was no briefing today"

Fleisher: "Because the President gave a speech, that's also standard."

CNN host: But what about him calling the media the enemy of the people


So CNN host didn't really counter Fleisher's statements that this happened all the time under Bush/Obama, and I don't know enough to know if that's true or not, but she totally accepted it.

Thoughts?
The subject at hand here is an actual press briefing. And the NYT, LATimes, Politico and Buzzfeed were excluded while Breitbart and the Washingtom Times were invited.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/medi...-house-gaggle/

I wasn't hyperventilating about there not being a press briefing one day.
02-24-2017 , 04:39 PM
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The subject at hand here is an actual press briefing. And the NYT, LATimes, Politico and Buzzfeed were excluded while Breitbart and the Washingtom Times were invited.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/medi...-house-gaggle/

I wasn't hyperventilating about there not being a press briefing one day.
CNN, too. Buzzfeed doesn't bother me so much, they're not a major outlet and it was a gaggle not a formal briefing.

Blocking out CNN, NYT, and LA Times is a MAJOR issue.
02-24-2017 , 04:39 PM
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Great, we've added an embedded tweet right at the start of this new page....

MB - if I understood correctly, Fleisher was saying this wasn't the official daily briefing, as there wasn't one because the President gave a speech (which he said was standard), and at non-official daily briefings White Houses have always been able to invite whichever media outlets they want, again, he said this is standard practice.

Again, I have no knowledge about White House press protocols, other than that the CNN host who probably has an expert talking in her ear piece had no rebuttal.
02-24-2017 , 04:40 PM
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Fair enough; dictatorship it is.
02-24-2017 , 04:40 PM
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BBC were also banned.
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Now we've quoted the embedded tweet. A+ Page loading issues abound.
02-24-2017 , 04:42 PM
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No need to bring asinine elitism into this.
+1

Democrats are vilified as elitist and it's not because they are liberal about supporting poor people and fighting racism, but because there's a lot of elitism in the Democratic party.
02-24-2017 , 04:43 PM
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CNN is just so whipped by Trump that they don't even know what to do. Banned from White House but carry Trump and president from Peru live. Like what does Trump have to do to you guys for you say "enough is enough."? Fire bomb the building?
02-24-2017 , 04:45 PM
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Now we've quoted the embedded tweet. A+ Page loading issues abound.
Use a different browser, my phone handles it fine.
02-24-2017 , 04:46 PM
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Great, we've added an embedded tweet right at the start of this new page....

MB - if I understood correctly, Fleisher was saying this wasn't the official daily briefing, as there wasn't one because the President gave a speech (which he said was standard), and at non-official daily briefings White Houses have always been able to invite whichever media outlets they want, again, he said this is standard practice.

Again, I have no knowledge about White House press protocols, other than that the CNN host who probably has an expert talking in her ear piece had no rebuttal.
Who cares whether the briefing is labeled "official" or not? The point is that there was a briefing with media and the administration invited media that supports them and not the NYT, LAT, CNN, Politico who they've been calling "fake media".

It's time for you to start hyperventilating if you care about freedom at all.
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Probably a good point.




So much power to bury stories when you can just start an alternate **** storm with little repercussion.
02-24-2017 , 04:51 PM
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Who cares whether the briefing is labeled "official" or not? The point is that there was a briefing with media and the administration invited media that supports them and not the NYT, LAT, CNN, Politico who they've been calling "fake media".

It's time for you to start hyperventilating if you care about freedom at all.
Right, Fleisher's point was that this is standard practice, happened all the time under previous administrations in non-formal briefings (which is why it matters if it is the formal daily briefing or not, to answer your first question).

CNN host had no rebuttal to that...
02-24-2017 , 04:53 PM
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Daily reminder that as we descend further and further, the number of
GOP congresscritters willing to do anything about this **** is exactly zero.
02-24-2017 , 04:54 PM
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QFT(aso)
02-24-2017 , 04:54 PM
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It appears Kasich is still on team #NeverTrump so that's something I guess
He's also on team #NeverWomen
02-24-2017 , 04:55 PM
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Exec editor of NYT finds it unusual.

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GT,

Can you see how weak your argument is?

If Ari Fleisher had some info on Obama banning The Wall Street Journal don't you think he should have come with that prepared?

You're suggesting that someone in the host's earpiece was supposed to list every single press event in history and show that in some negligible percentage were any media firms excluded?
02-24-2017 , 05:00 PM
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GT,

Can you see how weak your argument is?

If Ari Fleisher had some info on Obama banning The Wall Street Journal don't you think he should have come with that prepared?

You're suggesting that someone in the host's earpiece was supposed to list every single press event in history and show that in some negligible percentage were any media firms excluded?
You think Fleisher was lying to cover up for Trump?

He also wasn't saying just Obama, he said it was done under Bush as well.
02-24-2017 , 05:04 PM
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CNN is just so whipped by Trump that they don't even know what to do. Banned from White House but carry Trump and president from Peru live. Like what does Trump have to do to you guys for you say "enough is enough."? Fire bomb the building?
Ratings for all "fake news" outlets have gone up, while fox news is losing ground to rachel madow.
02-24-2017 , 05:05 PM
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Right, Fleisher's point was that this is standard practice, happened all the time under previous administrations in non-formal briefings (which is why it matters if it is the formal daily briefing or not, to answer your first question).

CNN host had no rebuttal to that...

Gee, I dunno. Perhaps the CNN host has integrity, is not the enemy, and decided not to press the issue until aware of the facts?
02-24-2017 , 05:09 PM
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You think Fleisher was lying to cover up for Trump?

He also wasn't saying just Obama, he said it was done under Bush as well.
He doesn't even claim that it was done by press secretaries and it's not just the trust issue with the press secretary and the press, but it's the OBLIGATION of the press secretary to meet with the media in general, not just partisan media. So even Fleisher is consistent with this being unprecedented. And I see where you got the "hyperventilating" from.
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02-24-2017 , 05:12 PM
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He doesn't even claim that it was done by press secretaries and it's not just the trust issue with the press secretary and the press, but it's the OBLIGATION of the press secretary to meet with the media in general, not just partisan media. So even Fleisher is consistent with this being unprecedented. And I see where you got the "hyperventilating" from.
Like, I probably got it from where I said I got it from, right?
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