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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-24-2017 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
We finished automation 10 years ago, now it is digitization. Jobs will get destroyed sure. But this happens with new technology since century´s. If you were able to afford one tractor you could get rid of docents of farm workers. New professions will surface.
This sounds good and is probably true, but another issue is the economic power these new jobs will have.
02-24-2017 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
he's a low info redneck from middle america and manages a hole in the wall liquor store. ya he's kind of an idiot, but he's clearly choosing to bury his head in the sand on this particular issue. doesn't make him "stupid" as much as it makes him a scumbag
maybe he is smart and just looking ahead? trump ruining the country and ****ing over poor people will definitely boost his liquor store...
02-24-2017 , 03:22 PM
via Public Policy Polling

02-24-2017 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
Yeah here for the holy ****.

Politico also banned.
02-24-2017 , 03:26 PM
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Rep. Peter King said Thursday that he won't do town hall meetings because he believes they would just devolve into a "screaming session," adding that angry town halls "trivialize" and "diminish" democracy.
lol these p*ssies.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/24/politi...lls/index.html
02-24-2017 , 03:29 PM
Blocking all the credible news outlets from a press briefing? It’s really getting scary now.
02-24-2017 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
There's probably going to be much more of this.

This suppression of the press is the MO of the far-right. The far right in this country (Dominion theology/evangelical/far right Christian politics) essentially coined the term alternative facts. For example, an alternate fact of this sect is that dinosaurs and humans lived on the Earth at the same time.

Nevertheless the suppression of free SECULAR press will continue.

I've recently started reading books about far-right America and the intersection of politics and theology. I have some recommendations if anyone is interested. It's harrowingly fascinating. However it's pretty clear that far-right theology and authoritarianism intersect. That's where we are at.
02-24-2017 , 03:38 PM
02-24-2017 , 03:41 PM
What the odds Trump, or one of his cronies, has ties with the eventual bid winner?
02-24-2017 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
AP and TIME both boycotted the briefing after the others were blocked.
Good for them having the spine the alt right news organizations do not.
02-24-2017 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ASAP17
Blocking all the credible news outlets from a press briefing? It’s really getting scary now.
This is seriously ****ing scary now.
02-24-2017 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thethethe
What the odds Trump, or one of his cronies, has ties with the eventual bid winner?
Well funny you should ask...

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...=1000381489973
02-24-2017 , 03:47 PM
Sure someone sane had to be in the room guys but we see where this is headed... it's going to be only the right and then maybe even only the alt right organizations. No way the CEOs of Disney, Comcast, Time Warner etc are going to let Trump run over their news businesses with alternative facts and limited access.
02-24-2017 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
This is seriously ****ing scary now.
NOW? Cmon, it should have been obvious this would be coming since week 1 of this dreadful parody of a presidency.
02-24-2017 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
This is seriously ****ing scary now.
Trump 10:32 a.m.: “I love the First Amendment.”
02-24-2017 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ASAP17
Sure someone sane had to be in the room guys but we see where this is headed... it's going to be only the right and then maybe even only the alt right organizations. No way the CEOs of Disney, Comcast, Time Warner etc are going to let Trump run over their news businesses with alternative facts and limited access.
Sure, but everyone has to be opposed. It has to be a united front against this evil.
02-24-2017 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
i posted a link to this on my facebook (caption: "donald trump's america), got this comment from my cousin-



response-



i mean really, what ****ing planet do you live on and where did your critical thinking abilities run off to? of course i get crickets for a response
its pure insanity. attacks by brown ppl get 24/7 coverage for weeks on end. white supremacist attacks are mere blips in media coverage. trump and our leaders are railing against attacks by brown ppl in every speech but do not say a single word about white supremacist attacks.

no mention of dylan roof, not mention of the guy in canada, and no mention of this pos. but trump is going off about pure fantasy fake problems in sweden. totally disgusting and truly destroying our society.
02-24-2017 , 04:01 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/emboldene...160727871.html

time for california to secede and we all go there.

"Tom Cotton of Arkansas, has been pursuing a parallel agenda: a bill to cut legal immigration in half, an idea long considered toxic in Washington but whose time may be coming around."
02-24-2017 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ASAP17
Blocking all the credible news outlets from a press briefing? It’s really getting scary now.
right. ppl are saying this is no big deal and we arent weimar germany or whatever but the parallels are tremendous. independent media is being trivialized. breitbart, fox, and the like are simply state sponsored media. their whole essence is to brainwash their followers into opposing anything liberals and dems desire with little more than lies.

and the rhetoric towards mexicans is quite similar to how the nazis painted jews. the idea that illegal mexicans are sucking the resources from our country and taking away from our citizens is exactly what the germans accused the jews of doing. their may not be the added issues of blaming them for global conspiracies and all that, but it has been enough that a large portion of the country would rather these ppl die. simply check the comments of the article about the poor woman with a brain tumor who was forcefully removed from a hospital to a detention center. the right cheered that move vociferously bc they do not want to pay for her surgery.

its totally sickening.
02-24-2017 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
A week is really so ludicrous to make a price proposal of this nature. Some quarry and concrete plant owners in Texas are gonna get really rich off this.
02-24-2017 , 04:12 PM
You're assuming that other companies haven't already been tipped off to work on their proposal. Not that this prestigious administration would ever do anything like that, of course.
02-24-2017 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ASAP17
Blocking all the credible news outlets from a press briefing? It’s really getting scary now.
It's so easy to non-answer questions and press secretaries have been doing it forever with no problem at all. So why ban media from press conferences? It would be somewhat scary if everyone involved were just so dumb that they couldn't pull off acting normal. But what is really scary is that they aren't banning media to avoid their questions. They are doing it because they want to ban media. And why? It's not really as punishment. What punishment? NYT doesn't get to ask a question and receive a non-answer? No, they are doing it as a display. They're showing their power because their boot-licking subservient followers love that. And along with much more threatening moves like talking about RICO charges for protesters, they are trying to intimidate opposition.
02-24-2017 , 04:22 PM
It appears Kasich is still on team #NeverTrump so that's something I guess
02-24-2017 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by d10
It appears Kasich is still on team #NeverTrump so that's something I guess
who?
02-24-2017 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
It's so easy to non-answer questions and press secretaries have been doing it forever with no problem at all. So why ban media from press conferences? It would be somewhat scary if everyone involved were just so dumb that they couldn't pull off acting normal. But what is really scary is that they aren't banning media to avoid their questions. They are doing it because they want to ban media. And why? It's not really as punishment. What punishment? NYT doesn't get to ask a question and receive a non-answer? No, they are doing it as a display. They're showing their power because their boot-licking subservient followers love that. And along with much more threatening moves like talking about RICO charges for protesters, they are trying to intimidate opposition.
CNN just had Ari Fleisher on who said that it is standard for White Houses to do this, it was done all the time under Bush and Obama, stop hyperventilating.

CNN host said "But there was no briefing today"

Fleisher: "Because the President gave a speech, that's also standard."

CNN host: But what about him calling the media the enemy of the people


So CNN host didn't really counter Fleisher's statements that this happened all the time under Bush/Obama, and I don't know enough to know if that's true or not, but she totally accepted it.

Thoughts?

Edit to add: Fleisher did say what was unique about this was the current Press Secretary's involvement, in that usually it is not a good idea for the Press Secretary to be involved, as it damages his/her relationship with the press corps.

Last edited by General Tsao; 02-24-2017 at 04:33 PM.

      
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