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02-24-2017 , 02:18 PM

#13351

Dominic

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38560438?SThisFB

Another Russian consul found dead

02-24-2017 , 02:22 PM

#13352

Zimmer4141

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https://twitter.com/UID_/status/834863318036799490

Adding one more to the pile. That seems like a lot of foreign consuls to die in a span of 3 months.

02-24-2017 , 02:26 PM

#13353

Minirra

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

$12/hr in KS? LOL I think you mean $7.25.

You're probably closer to correct than I am, but I was giving benefit of doubt

02-24-2017 , 02:29 PM

#13354

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38560438?SThisFB

Another Russian consul found dead

The date of this article is January 9th dude.

02-24-2017 , 02:32 PM

#13355

thethethe

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Russia dealing with leaks on their side.

02-24-2017 , 02:35 PM

#13356

uDevil

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If you suspect you're on Putin's list, now might be a good time to defect. Not sure what a good choice of embassy would be.

02-24-2017 , 02:36 PM

#13357

aoFrantic

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02-24-2017 , 02:40 PM

#13358

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

another hate crime perpetuated by a white supremacist.

these are the real terrorists in our country.

i posted a link to this on my facebook (caption: "donald trump's america), got this comment from my cousin-

Quote:

I fail to see anything with trump in this instance I see some drunk racist ******* took innocent lives. Anyway this popped up in my newsfeed hope all is good with ya cuz I'll get at ya when I'm back down south

response-

Quote:

there has been a dramatic uptick in hate crimes and racially motivated violence since the election- it's quite a stretch to act like it isn't correlated with the way this admin's rhetoric has normalized fear and hatred of outsiders/immigrants. don't play dumb, you're smarter than that.

just to connect the dots a little bit more, the biggest terror threat that america faces BY FAR is and always has been homegrown right wing extremist groups. if you think that they don't feel emboldened by having the head of the mother****ing alt-right as the chief policy advisor to the president, a white house spokesman (stephen miller) who follows david duke on twitter, doing stuff like detaining/deporting immigrants and visa holders on the basis of fake crime and economic statistics, making up not one but two completely fake terror attacks that never occurred in their efforts to further demonize muslims...then like, wow, i'm not sure what planet you're living on nowadays.

http://www.newsweek.com/.../right-wing-extremists...

https://www.splcenter.org/20100126/terror-right

i mean really, what ****ing planet do you live on and where did your critical thinking abilities run off to? of course i get crickets for a response

02-24-2017 , 02:41 PM

#13359

TheHip41

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

i posted a link to this on my facebook, got this comment from my cousin-

response-

i mean really, what ****ing planet do you live on and where did your critical thinking abilities run off to?

they voted for trump

in your logic puzzle you missed the first step

02-24-2017 , 02:42 PM

#13360

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHip41

they voted for trump

in your logic puzzle you missed the first step

the **** are you talking about? when did i ever say that he didn't vote for trump? i'm like 99% certain he did, he is too ashamed to admit it tho.

02-24-2017 , 02:44 PM

#13361

TimmayB

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Wow that quote about media sources should have to reveal names.

02-24-2017 , 02:53 PM

#13362

Dominic

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02-24-2017 , 02:53 PM

#13363

Dominic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

The date of this article is January 9th dude.

dammit! sorry.

02-24-2017 , 03:03 PM

#13364

m_reed05

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Originally Posted by Dominic

Yeah here for the holy ****.

Politico also banned.

02-24-2017 , 03:05 PM

#13365

TheHip41

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

the **** are you talking about? when did i ever say that he didn't vote for trump? i'm like 99% certain he did, he is too ashamed to admit it tho.

you missed my point. you were wondering "why isn't this person getting it"

the logic puzzle tree:

1. Did he vote for trump -

No, continue
Yes, he's a dumbass

02-24-2017 , 03:07 PM

#13366

m_reed05

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AP and TIME both boycotted the briefing after the others were blocked.

02-24-2017 , 03:09 PM

#13367

TheNewT50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

Yeah here for the holy ****.

Politico also banned.

I don't know how many more times I'm willing to say "holy ****". This is the descent of a nation into wickedness and despair. There have been lots of "holy ****" moments in the past months. There will be many more in the coming months. At some point we have to say this is exactly what were expecting and respond accordingly.

02-24-2017 , 03:12 PM

#13368

JacktheDumb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eurodp

Right after the election I had posted something on FB talking about how much worse this could get due to future job loss with regards to more and more automation. WH had a report some months ago saying between like 10-50% of all jobs in the next decades could be lost to automation. If the .1% isn't willing to create a system that shares in the wealth created by automation so that people who lose jobs can do something, anything, with their lives then I don't want to imagine the political turmoil. The people that are already blaming immigrants and minorities for their economic issues will only increase and their failure to put the blame for these economic conditions on the proper source could be disastrous.

We finished automation 10 years ago, now it is digitization. Jobs will get destroyed sure. But this happens with new technology since century´s. If you were able to afford one tractor you could get rid of docents of farm workers. New professions will surface.

02-24-2017 , 03:14 PM

#13369

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Schneider’s confusion is a symptom of CPAC’s conundrum with the alt-right, an ideology closely associated with Donald Trump’s rise and with the ongoing transformation of American conservatism since the election. Like other legacy conservative institutions, CPAC wants to curry the approval of the new dispensation and also to harness the energy of young people mobilized by the alt-right. But unvarnished white nationalism of the Spencer variety is still beyond the pale.

So the drama of this year’s CPAC revolves around how conservatives should handle the alt-right. The solution, so far, has been to make a gingerly attempt to separate out the more socially acceptable parts of the alt-right while distancing CPAC from figures like Spencer, who would remind the press and larger public that we are dealing with neo-Nazi ideologues.

But you cannot whitewash the alt-right, nor deny its influence in today’s conservative movement or the highest levels of the Trump administration.

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Like CPAC, the conservative movement faces a difficult choice. Many aspects of the alt-right, especially as articulated by outspoken figures like Spencer, are highly unpalatable to older right-wingers. Yet the alt-right clearly has momentum and is drawing fresh, youthful blood into the right. The current solution of accepting Bannon but rejecting Yiannopoulos and Spencer is a temporary compromise, one that is unlikely to last. Soon conservatism will have to face its moment of truth: Do they accept the alt-right as the future of American conservatism?

https://newrepublic.com/article/1408...used-alt-right

02-24-2017 , 03:14 PM

#13370

JacktheDumb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by surftheiop

Something I've wondered about, there are always various stories about all politicians from both parties leaking from insiders, what's the incentive for folks to leak information? This isn't unique to the trump administration is it?

Advancing self interest is the main reason.

02-24-2017 , 03:16 PM

#13371

thethethe

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Originally Posted by m_reed05

AP and TIME both boycotted the briefing after the others were blocked.

Nice. I'd hope others would follow suit, until it's just him briefing Brietbart and Alex Jones.

They know it's just going to be a bunch of garbage and lies anyway, and the constant leaks are much more informative.

02-24-2017 , 03:16 PM

#13372

wheatrich

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Authoritarian has always won those battles so this is what conservative is now.

It can be defeated but it takes unity (ie bernie and hillary bros have to stop fighting along with the last remaining GOP'ers who don't want this bull**** either), but the name calling and the 'he's mentally ill" and all that crap has to stop, it doesn't work.

02-24-2017 , 03:16 PM

#13373

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHip41

you missed my point. you were wondering "why isn't this person getting it"

the logic puzzle tree:

1. Did he vote for trump -

No, continue
Yes, he's a dumbass

he's a low info redneck from middle america and manages a hole in the wall liquor store. ya he's kind of an idiot, but he's clearly choosing to bury his head in the sand on this particular issue. doesn't make him "stupid" as much as it makes him a scumbag