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12-23-2018 , 12:59 PM
I don’t have any way to back this statistically but if you were trying to find one stat to explain much of the issues in America today the general trend for Americans to not travel abroad has to be a favourite. Exposure to other cultures is a prerequisite for a global view of the world.

It’s easy to be MAGA when you have never stepped foot outside the US.
12-23-2018 , 01:00 PM

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12-23-2018 , 01:01 PM
Speaking of Paris and Muslims and back to my daughter and her time in the Paris riots, for those few days adding there she was staying in one of the Muslim suburbs in an air-bnb room with a Moroccan family.
12-23-2018 , 01:01 PM
Erdogan is basically Secretary of Defense for the US.

What could go wrong?
12-23-2018 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Koss
This was posted by someone on another forum (back in mid 2017) and I find it a helpful reminder whenever these thoughts of wheels falling off tend to creep in.
As i was reading this, the Wait, Wait intro played, with Peter Sagal taking about Trump... wheels coming off.
12-23-2018 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chytry
Do even his supporters think that this is some kind of incredible selfless sacrifice?
He's shutting down the government to smash a deplorable intern while Melania is out of town.
12-23-2018 , 01:10 PM
Slow & highly coordinated lol

This ****ing guy
12-23-2018 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
And Sweden 63.5..... I don't see UK or the home nations on the list but European average is 10.19
Sweden has a very, very broad definition of rape. That‘s why it‘s an outlier.
12-23-2018 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
My first instinct was that America was actually relatively safe for woman, compared to other industrialized nations. I guess I assumed because it’s a main topic of public debate it would have lower rape stats but boy was I wrong.



https://www.nationmaster.com/country...rime/Rape-rate



Australia! Wtf is going on over there?

A few years back my wife and her gf we’re supposed to travel to Thailand and Vietnam as their gift for finishing residency. Her mother (pretty racist towards Asians tbh) was terrified to the point that she was trying to get me to convince her not to go. I was like “do you not realize how much safer it is for women traveling alone in those countries compared to the one we live in?”

Also I know most people don’t travel like this but seems to me the best places to visit in the US would be the smaller to medium sized cities - Portland, Charleston, Tucson (where I live so I’m biased), Austin and a bunch of others. I feel like they’re a lot more digestible than larger cities and also paint a better cultural picture.
12-23-2018 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kre8tive
He's shutting down the government to smash a deplorable intern while Melania is out of town.
Not necessary. I’d take the under on 5 sentences they speak to each other on an average day.
12-23-2018 , 01:13 PM
wish trump's dad used the highly coordinated pull out method
12-23-2018 , 01:14 PM

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12-23-2018 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
Go **** yourself Corker. You helped make this ****ing bad, now lay the **** down and lie in it.
12-23-2018 , 01:18 PM
Trump won the military vote in spite of insulting a genuine war hero for getting captured and dodging service himself. He won the white woman vote in spite of saying rape is cool. He won the religious vote in spite of being completely non-religious, divorced several times, and having multiple affairs with porn stars, and most likely paying for abortions. He won the anti-immigrant vote in spite of the laughable claim that Mexico would pay for his wall, a claim now proven false for those too stupid to know it would never happen.

It's just hard to see anything he can do or say that will make him lose support among his cult. I try to figure out how he won in the first place, and it's almost impossible.
12-23-2018 , 01:35 PM
From June 21, 2017



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The Senate Armed Services Committee hearing started out in predictable fashion. Nominee Patrick M. Shanahan, a former senior executive at Boeing, was warmly introduced by Sen. Maria Cantwell, who represents the company’s home state of Washington. She was invited to show her support of Shanahan even though she is not a member of the committee. Cantwell praised him as a uniquely qualified business executive whose expertise in management and manufacturing will “prove invaluable at DoD.”

Immediately after Cantwell departed, the nominee came under fire from panel Chairman John McCain. The Arizona senator said he was deeply disturbed by Shanahan’s written testimony, in which he declined to indicate his stance on providing military assistance to Ukraine in its fight to thwart a Russian invasion.

Shanahan’s written statement said he would “look at the issue.” That enraged McCain, an ardent Russia hawk and proponent of arming its imperiled neighbor. He pointed at Shanahan’s non-answer as problematic enough to derail his confirmation.

The nominee appeared blindsided by the harsh reprimand. McCain seized on the opportunity to spotlight the Ukraine issue, which has not been a high priority for the Trump administration, particularly amid swirling scandals concerning the president’s and his associates’ possible ties to Russia. The Trump campaign reportedly managed last year to remove from the Republican platform support for providing weapons to Ukraine.
Shanahan, of course, is a total stooge and "business man" in a government role like all the real winners ala Trump and Rick Snyder.
12-23-2018 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Trump won the military vote in spite of insulting a genuine war hero for getting captured and dodging service himself. He won the white woman vote in spite of saying rape is cool. He won the religious vote in spite of being completely non-religious, divorced several times, and having multiple affairs with porn stars, and most likely paying for abortions. He won the anti-immigrant vote in spite of the laughable claim that Mexico would pay for his wall, a claim now proven false for those too stupid to know it would never happen.

It's just hard to see anything he can do or say that will make him lose support among his cult. I try to figure out how he won in the first place, and it's almost impossible.
It's racism.
12-23-2018 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
When I was in school, it was the school's anthem followed by the pledge of allegiance.
We said the pledge when I was in school also, but that was a long time ago. I just confirmed that my school age kids do not know the pledge of allegiance and have only a vague understanding of what it is.
12-23-2018 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by realDonaldTrump

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Puerto Rico says hello.
12-23-2018 , 01:43 PM
Thoughts and prayers are cheap, he hasn't said we're actually helping them yet...
12-23-2018 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
I don’t have any way to back this statistically but if you were trying to find one stat to explain much of the issues in America today the general trend for Americans to not travel abroad has to be a favourite. Exposure to other cultures is a prerequisite for a global view of the world.

It’s easy to be MAGA when you have never stepped foot outside the US.
Has travel abroad by Americans decreased? I doubt it, which means it probably isn't the explanation for the rise of Trumpism (although it obviously could have an effect on baseline political views).

In any case, I'm dubious that this is the explanation. Xenophobia is plenty prevalent in Europe, and I assume the average European has traveled to more different countries than the average American.

I think U.S. demographic change and social change are probably better explanations for Trumpism. White Americans, even the really dumb ones, intuitively understand that their structural advantages are likely to decrease over the next few decades, and they don't like it. Those structural advantages were underserved, of course, which is why it is abhorrent to cling to them.

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12-23-2018 , 01:50 PM
I'm sure many of the coastal/blue areas of the country have a large proportion of people who do travel abroad.

But if you live in a red, insular area where America is the greatest country ever created by God, why would you ever want to go somewhere that's not as good as where you already are?

And those areas tend to be poorer as well so it's a nice consolation prize that if you can't go anywhere else, then you wouldn't want to anyway. Sour grapes and all that.
12-23-2018 , 01:51 PM
Y’all are trying too hard. The reason USA is #1 is because anybody, even an idiot tv show host, can rise to the position of most powerful person in the world. That can’t happen in other places.

Further, even before they are elected president they **** on your tv show hosts. There is no tv show host on any station anywhere except the United States that could call Trump a pussy and prompt a government shut down.

US tv show hosts are the most powerful and it’s not close. The delta between number one and two is miles wide (not kilometers).
12-23-2018 , 02:00 PM
Too busy stuffing my face with eggs Benedict to google it but I think Americans travel much less than other western countries and, as already pointed out, it’s far less in red states.
12-23-2018 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
I'd add a few to Chris's list of better places to live - basically all of Western Europe and some of Asia.
This isn't really just a response to you, but the original claim was something like demonstrably the greatest country ever known. Or something like that (I can't be bothered to look back). It's wasn't best place to live.

So while best place to live is one factor, I'm sure whoever is making that statement is taking other factors into account (e.g. military power).

While those countries are likely better to live in for most people, I think anyone making the claim that Denmark (for example) is the greatest country ever known, would get deserved skepticism.

But my curiosity has been satisfied. No need to continue.
12-23-2018 , 02:07 PM
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CNN's Chris Cuomo implores both Republicans and Democrats to come together to find solutions for border security.
Clockwork.

      
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