His lies and incompetence are on public display every day bro.

Now that everyone is dreaming about impeachment how about the other possibility? When Trump realizes that maybe the GOP wont protect him would he be able to pull a Erdogan power grab? I mean he could rile up his base who consists of a lot of gun loving nutjobs. With Mattis gone he will be looking for somebody who is with him and he had no problem using the military to defend the border within the USA. With all the chaos he creates he might actually undermine the mechanisms/departments who could oppose him.

The house only votes to impeach if they have 67 votes locked up. The actual trial in the senate is meaningless, it will all be played out in the media and through public opinion. If Trump is acquitted then it can only help him, unless somehow they can do some masterful PR and turn it into a Pyrrhic victory for Trump and the GOP.

You're not really trying. Why not a Saddam Hussein power grab?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Ba%27ath_Party_Purge

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For sure if he gets acquitted, there's a very big chunk of low-information folks, that aren't necessarily even part of his base, that will see it as him being declared totally innocent of all charges and a confirmation that it was all a witch hunt. And since his base never believed a word of it from day one it obviously won't matter one way or the other. So you could say it would be a net positive for him.

On the flip side, a lengthy trial with lots of enraging/embarrassing **** coming out could really galvanize the anti-Trump vote, and cause an absolutely enormous turnout in 2020 that drops his already minuscule chances of re-election near zero.

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Dunno, I don’t see how the Dems can tell their constituents they didn’t move to impeach Trump, even if it’s just symbolic. The Blue Wave was powered in part by voters who want the Dems to throw out Trump. I think it’s pretty bad optics for the Rs if their senators vote to keep Trump in office after his various crimes are revealed.

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This is why I think he's going to be removed from office one way or another. His base will never turn on him. We know that. But his unfavorable rating keeps going up. The GOP depends on low voter turnout in the election. If people that normally don't pay attention to voting start paying attention, the GOP has a problem.

"Impeach Trump" isn't the left's version of "Build the wall."

"said to be one of the greatest of all time"

I’ve been thinking I should say Barrier now instead of slats yes that’s better.

I think he meant to say one of the most horrifying of all time.

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I don't even see Dem reps talking about impeachment unless prompted by a reporter/host. If you turn on FOX NEWS they're going on and on about how all the Pelosi Democrats want to do is impeach, impeach.

It's in the top 58, certainly.

I think this is right. I also think that if it's going to happen it's going to happen sooner rather than later - at this point pretty much the only out for the GOP is for Pence to take over and re-establish order (of a kind) so the GOP can get back to business as usual. Impeachment in 2020 is a total disaster for the GOP - the dems can string it out for months, a new horrifying revelation a week. The GOP establishment owes Trump and idiots like Miller less than nothing - they're not going to go down with the ship here. Despite what another poster thought, I think it's EXACTLY like Nixon - he had the full unswayed support of the GOP until the day he didn't - and a few days later he was on a helicopter leaving the White House...

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I don’t think seeing Trump as unfit for the Presidency is a partisan issue. #TrumpResign is number one trending on Twitter at the moment. When that happens, we usually think someone died.

The country is SUBSTANTIALLY more partisan than it was back then.

Once again, Trump's approval rating among Republicans is over 80%.

It is absolutely a partisan issue.

You just said yesterday you stopped the convoy. Make up your mind.

Haha fair, but there were about 25 people there, and 22 dudes. The dudes I'm friends with were mostly playing pool during that time.

He did something similar shortly after the election about this same Republican friend who guaranteed that they were going to turn on Trump in no time.

FAKE SHUTDOWN!!!!

They'd impeach Trump, stall the Pence trial in the Senate and give him time to appoint a new VP, who they would then confirm. They'd then convict Pence, the new POTUS would pardon Pence and we'd all move on under President Cotton/Walker/insert nightmare GOP politician here.

The difference in the media now is important, though. Nixon didn't have the right wing talk radio and right wing cable news to lift his floor. Trump does. Some of them are just so nuts, they will never turn on him. Like that girl I talked to last night, who believes she's a moderate and believes Trump wants to expand legal immigration and Dems want to let everyone in and give them Medicaid. She's already about to turn on Fox News for being too liberal, so if they turn on Trump it won't sway her.

The right wing media really does play a huge role in the political side of this.

Pro-Nixon mobs were rioting in NYC.

This is worst case scenario. Trump dies, media makes him a martyr. Pence “fixes” the economy by simply not being a moron with our trade policy. Wins reelection in 2020.

Best case is mueller stuff drops hard right before campaign.